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Play Ball President Kennedy opens the season as the the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators
Clip: 425212_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-030-03
HD: N/A
Location: Washington D.C., USA
Timecode: 00:37:05 - 00:38:03

As the old familiar cry rings throughout the land, President Kennedy opens the season in the old familiar way. He throws out the first ball and settles back to see the Baltimore Orioles take the Washington Senators. Don Rudolph pitches a ball to Jim Gentile - well, it's enough to "kill a mockingbird"- it hits the scoreboard for a homer. Boog Powell comes through with another for the Birds and Baltimore tops the Senators - 3 to 1. A packed baseball field with throngs of fans waiting to watch the Baltimore Orioles take on the Washington Senators. MS - President Kennedy surrounded by politicians and secret service throws out the baseball and the catcher Ken Ritzier catches the ball for his great-grandchildren. MCUS - Ken smiling and holding the ball up for the camera. MLS - Don Rudolph pitches the ball the batter connects the ball and scores a home-run. This puts Baltimore Orioles ahead of the game.

Sub Disaster : Nation Mourns 129 Lost In Test
Clip: 425213_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-031-01
HD: N/A
Location: Atlantic Ocean
Timecode: 00:38:16 - 00:41:21

"I conclude with great regret and sadness that the submarine Thresher is lost" with those words Admiral George Anderson, chief of naval operations mounted an epitaph for 129 men aboard the nuclear craft. After an overhaul the Thresher, fastest and deepest diving of all submarines, was on a test dive in 8,400 feet of water, 200 miles east of Boston, accompanied by the tender Skylark. Presumably the Thresher rests on the ocean's bottom. Her fate recalls a happier one, that of the Squalus in 1939. With a diving bell the Navy was able to rescue 33 men who were still alive. In the ship yard the submarine Thresher is dry docked. (SS 593 Thresher) CUS - The submarine being lowered into the water. MS - The submarine is in the water and takes a bounce backwards. MS - Thresher tied up to the dock. MLS - The naval crew standing on the dock in Naval dress uniform next to the Thresher. MS - You see the top of the Thresher in the ocean out at sea. Aerial shot - The Thresher almost covered by water she is diving and all you see is the wake that she leaves behind.

"Oscar" Awards
Clip: 425214_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: No
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-031-02
HD: N/A
Location: Hollywood, California
Timecode: 00:41:21 - 00:44:19

"Oscar" Awards: Gregory Peck is Best Actor. The most glamorous night in glamorous Hollywood draws a glittering crown - the 35th annual Academy Awards. There's an air of electrified anticipation among the stars, including Angie Dickinson, Gregory Peck's new leading lady in "Captain Newman, M.D." the awards go to Ed Begley, Patty Duke, Anne Bancroft and Gregory Peck, with the crowd giving an ovation to Mr. Peck, an extremely popular figure in movie circles who had been nominated before only to lose out. His performance in "To Kill A Mockingbird" however, shoots him to the top of the "Oscar" heap. The picture in which he starred also won two other awards. Sophia Loren presented the award to Peck. 35th Annual Academy Awards and a crowd has gathered outside the theater. CUS - Theaters marquee. BS - All the stars and starlets seated in their seats. CUS - A very young Angie Dickinson. MLS - Ann Bancroft at the podium. MLS - Betty Davis. MLS - Gregory Peck and Sophia Loren.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460135_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:50:32) Senator MACK. Mr. Roelle has indicated to us that on two different occasions Roger Altman directed Ms. Hanson with respect to the Madison matters. One, was either on September 24 or 27, 1993 ' you're not positive about the date, but I believe it was September 27, 1993, and the other was on October 6, 1993, when you informed Mr. Altman of the press information. And at that time, he directed Ms. Hanson to inform "Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary," I believe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 63 The CHAMMAN. Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't think I'll need all of the time. Let me thank all four of you for being here. As I said the other day, one probably didn't assume that a year or so ago, you'd be as . iced to recall every conversation, thought, or hypothetical ques-tion in front of a Senate panel. It has been a panel for this purpose, so I want to thank you personally. All of you, have distinguished records and long service, and that should be noted as part of the record. I also want to associate myself with the questions raised by Senator Bryan and the concerns raised about the management issue of asking by statute to fill vacancies with only confirmable people. At that particular time in this Administration, it limited the decision to the Secretary of the Treasury and Mr. Altman, thus placing ourselves in a situation that invites the kind of problems and troubles that the OGE's office has identified, I'm hopeful we'll address that issue, but it's important to note that all of you seem to express the notion that Mr. Altman, as well, was concerned about this and trying to do the best job he could. I think it's important for the record to reflect that. I asked some very pointed questions, at the outset, in my line of questioning this morning, to get to the important questions for you, not hypothetical questions about what you would do if you were private attorneys or, in retrospect, what someone should or shouldn't do under political circumstances, and so forth. The issue for all four of you, but principally Mr. Ryan In and Ms. Kulka, is of what, if anything, happened as a result this information being shared? People have used the words "insider information" suggesting, in effect, that that information bad some impact or effect on the progress of the particular cases. There's a legitimate set of questions that will come to those witnesses about what information was shared and with whom, and we ought to look at that. The second set of questions, in my view, addresses the issue of what, then, was done with that information, and to what extent that information, then, affected or is affecting the progress of the particular case', the Madison case. ~ It seems to me you're in a unique position to answer the latter question, and your opinions regarding the first are certainly worthwhile, but only the witnesses who were involved directly in those conversations are going to shed the kind of light that this Committee needs to have. I want to focus this question, again coming back to the point, what were the implications, what actions either were suggested by the White House or the Treasury Department and what, if anything, did the RTC do with that information, if, in fact, it was shared or given to you? It was pointed out by you, Mr. Roelle, that the reason you keep referrals private is for two reasons. One is to protect the innocent. Their reputations can be ruined if that information gets out. The other reason is to not destroy a case to protect a case in effect. I would ask you whether or not that is true, if that is exactly why the rationale for keeping the referrals private is important? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. 64 Senator DODD. Are you, or any of you here, aware of any evi-dence that the disclosures in this case either by the press or oth-ers, in any way altered the course of the referrals or enabled any-one to gain an unfair advantage? Mr. ROELLE. I am not, sir. Senator DODD. No advantage whatsoever? Mr. ROELLE. I am not aware of it. Senator DODD. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KuLKA. I am not. I have great concern about parts of our investigation- that keep getting released inappropriately and the effect that has on our ability

Navy Fledglings Let Fly
Clip: 425217_1_1
Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-032-03
HD: N/A
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Timecode: 00:49:25 - 00:50:26

They launch a fleet of new light battle cruisers at the Naval Academy. They weigh 30 pounds and up (but not much) and like all Navy armament and personnel they are scrappers. Of course, these are the young boxers who stage a show each year at the Academy. The fists fly, but they play it cool, it winds up in an ice-cream feast. Little boys standing and jumping up and down in a boxing ring. MCUS - Two little boys around five years old come out boxing. CUS - Two more little guys go at it with the boxing gloves on. CUS - A little boxer eating some ice cream.

Nato Nations Meet: Defense Alliance Opens Discussions
Clip: 425218_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-01
HD: N/A
Location: The Hague, Netherlands
Timecode: 00:36:55 - 00:38:30

NATO Nations Meet In Holland. The 15 nations of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization hear Secretary of State Dean Rusk call for closer relationships on mutual problems. They then tackle the problem on Cyprus and DeGaulle's insistence that French troops stay under French command. The Hague, Netherlands A government limousine with US Secretary of State, David Dean Rusk representing the United States arriving at a NATO Alliance meeting held at the International Court of Justice, in the Juliana barracks, located in Hague. MCUS - Dean Rusk getting out of the State driven limousine, an honor guard standing at attention. MS - Delegates to NATO, three, Dean Rusk is at the far left of the picture, as you view it. MS - Members of NATO. Secretary of State, Dean Rusk "We of the United States look upon the North Atlantic Alliance as an expression of an enduring community of interests and of abiding common commitments to great humane traditions. We're prepared to move ahead with our NATO partners, in strengthening the institutions of the North Atlantic Community. We must better develop the process of political consultation, so as a matter of agreed practice, each of us consults his partners in advance on those policy decisions directly affecting the interest of NATO as a whole." General shots of the conference.

Two Movie Greats Together Again
Clip: 425219_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-02
HD: N/A
Location: Los Angeles, California
Timecode: 00:39:17 - 00:40:00

There s a gala party for two favorite stars - Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor - who are being reunited in a Universal chiller, "The Night Walker." Also includes William Castle, Producer, Milton Rockbill, President, Rochelle Hudson, Gloria Swanson and Cesar Romero. Establishing shot - Universal City, Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor sitting together at a table. CUS Robert Taylor, Barbara Stanwyck Producer Robert Castle. CUS - Robert Castle. MCUS - Robert Castle and Milton Rockbill. CUS - Rochelle Hudson. CUS - William Castle, Gloria Swanson and Cesar Romero. MCUS - The paparazzi or press. MS - Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor.

The Super Plane of Tomorrow B-70
Clip: 425220_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-02
HD: N/A
Location: California
Timecode: 00:38:30 - 00:39:17

The Super Plane Of Tomorrow. The B-70 a 2,000-mile-an-hour bomber that is expected to speed the production of a new super-sonic airliner, is unveiled for the first time. California A very impressive future-like super sonic looking plane being pulled out of the hanger. MS - A small crowd of people showed up for the unveiling of the new plane. Camera panning gong from nose to the tail, US Air Force. MS - Men looking at the wheels of the plane that look like they could be silver. MS - The jet scoops of the plane, voice over states that a man of six feet can walk through its jet scoops. OHS - The nose of the plane and people walking around it.

Ion Propelled Aircraft - The Ionocraft
Clip: 425223_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-04
HD: N/A
Location: New York, New York
Timecode: 00:40:00 - 00:40:48

Aviation pioneer, Major Alexander P. de Seversky, reveals his new "Ionocraft" a flying platform that will perform many functions sixty miles above the earth. It draws it's energy from the sun or the earth. In this clip it looks like a big Tinker-Toy "If you remember Tinker-Toy's". The Major say's one platform above New York and one platform above Los Angeles, California would permit direct TV communication. New York, NY MS - Major Alexander P. de Seversky revealed a new kind of flying platform. It performs many functions high above the earth. Making no sound this strange and stick looking contraption rises straight up. It makes a few graceful turns, stops and sits there very silently.

Hussein Received By Pope
Clip: 425224_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-039-05
HD: N/A
Location: Vatican City, Rome, Italy
Timecode: 00:40:49 - 00:41:55

The King of Jordan is received officially by Pope Paul VI in still another milestone in the Vatican's winding circle of consulting with all men of all faiths. Vatican City, Rome, Italy King Hussein arrives at Vatican City, Rome and is walking with his entourage reviewing the Vatican City Honor Guard. MS - King Hussein and his entourage is received by his Holiness, Pope Paul VI, they pleasantly smile at each other. MCUS - Pope Paul VI and King Hussein exchanging gifts. CUS - Pope Paul VI exchanging good byes with King Hussein's entourage, shaking hands. MS - Pope Paul VI walks over to St. Peter's chair where he and King Hussein exchange words and seal the conversation with shaking of the hands.

Johnson At Fair: Has A busy Day On Flying Visit
Clip: 425225_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-01
HD: N/A
Location: New York, NY
Timecode: 00:30:54 - 00:32:03

Praise And Progress From Our Peripatetic President. Man on the move - LBJ, has a busy day in New York. At the World's Fair, words of praise and progress punctuate his addresses to conventioneers of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers and the dedication of the Venezuelan Pavilion. New York, NY President and Lady Bird Johnson at the World's New York Fair. MS - A convertible heading towards the Unisphere carrying the President and Mrs. Johnson. MS - Crowd of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers and President Johnson is among them. CUS - President Johnson waving and smiling. MS - Raising the American and Venezuela flags outside the Venezuelan Pavilion, throngs of people gather to take part in the ceremony. MS - The President and his wife Lady Bird.

Former President Truman Celebrates 80th Birthday
Clip: 425226_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-02
HD: N/A
Location: Washington DC
Timecode: 00:32:06 - 00:32:51

In Washington at the National Press Club Harry S. Truman sounds off on his 80th Birthday. No indeed, they're not mild about Harry - They're Just Wild About him. Washington DC A stairway jammed packed with people holding up a Happy Birthday banner. MS - President Harry S. Truman walking in at the National Press Club. MS - People on the staircase applauding. MS - A young lady pining a rose on his lapel. CUS - National Press Club logo. MS - A waiter brings in a two tier birthday cake with candles to Harry S. Truman. MS - Harry Truman blowing out his candles. CUS - Harry Truman smiling.

Anniversary For J. Edgar Hoover
Clip: 425227_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-03
HD: N/A
Location: Washington DC
Timecode: 00:32:51 - 00:33:36

Anniversary For J. Edgar Hoover. FBI Chief observes his 40th Anniversary as the nation's Chief Law Enforcement Officer. He receives a bronze bust of himself as one of the many tributes paid to him on the occasion. He is 70 and at the request of President Johnson will continue to head the FBI. Washington DC J. Edgar Hoover and Emit MaGayhe, a former FBI Agent standing in his office. MS - Former FBI Agents attending this small and personal ceremony. MS - Emit MaGayhe unveils a bust of J. Edgar Hoover. CUS - J. Edgar Hoover bust. MS . A smaller bust is handed off to J. Edgar Hoover that he can pass out to his friends and associates.

Tornado Smashes Into Michigan
Clip: 425228_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-04
HD: N/A
Location: Michigan
Timecode: 00:33:36 - 00:34:29

12 persons perish - 50 others are injured as a tornado rips through Southeast Michigan - some 20 miles north of Detroit. 200 homes are destroyed and several hundred others badly damaged. Michigan Complete devastation, trees in the ground with branches and leaves totally ripped off, and piles of broken up wood. MCUS - The remains of a house and stripped and broken trees. CUS - A car totally covered by house debris and trees. MCUS - Another home that was torn apart by the tornado. MS - A foundation and some landscaping that survived the tornado, the hose is gone. MS - Every thing is gone from around this house but the house sustained some damage but in spite of it all remained standing.

White Water Racers Compete
Clip: 425230_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-038-06
HD: N/A
Location: Germany
Timecode: 00:35:32 - 00:36:45

Spring starts the white-water Kayaks Racing in Europe. In the Eiffel Mountain region - this race is run down a slick slalom course....plenty of chills and spills....and thrills. Germany A whitewater river in West Germany. A Kayaker takes on a small waterfall others follow. An exciting shot of a Kayaker slicing through the whitewater, this is called a "pirouette". The water is extremely turbulent. MS - Kayaker navigating his ride through a hanging gate, he goes over a small fall and he gets dunked and a 50 second penalty is given. MS - One Kayaker looses it just before the finish line.

Brandt In US: West Berlin Mayor Meets With Johnson
Clip: 425231_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1723
Original Film: 037-040-01
HD: N/A
Location: Washington DC
Timecode: 00:42:49 - 00:43:46

A favorite German, West Berlin's Mayor Willy Brandt meets with President Lyndon Johnson in Washington. The Mayor receives assurances from the President that the United States will continue to uphold freedom's cause in divided Germany. Washington DC Exterior shot of the White House. MS - West Berlin's Mayor Willy Brandt walking with President Lyndon B. Johnson in the rose garden. MCUS - Washing press with their cameras. MCUS - Mayor Brandt and President Johnson. CUS - Willy Brandt and President Johnson sitting down inside the White House drinking coffee with German and American aids in the back ground. MS - Washington DC press. MS -Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara shaking hands with Mayor Brandt other government officials follow.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460136_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(13:55:19) Senator DODD. Mostly in the press? Ms. KuLKA. Certainly, at some point, in the press, sir. Senator DODD. Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. No, I'm not aware of any either, Senator DODD. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. No, sir. Senator DODD. To your knowledge-and again anyone here-to your knowledge, did anyone who learned about the referrals-and we may find more who learned about the referrals--did an one use this case? that information in any way whatsoever to interfere with Mr. RoELL.E. No, sir, not that I'm aware of Senator DODD. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KuLKA. No, sir. Mr. RYAN. Not that I'm aware of. Mr. KATSANOS. No, sir. Senator DODD. I think that's an important point, Mr. Chairman, to make. Again, who had the information is important, but what they did with that information and to what extent they used that information to, in any way, try to pressure the RTC from doing its business is also important. These are the witnesses uniquely qualified to answer that question and the answer has been no. Mr. Chairman, I think at this point it might also be worthwhile to include in the record this morning pages 7, 8, and 9 of the Office of Government Ethic,' analysis of the meetings between Ms. Hanson, Mr. Nussbaum, and Mr. Sloan. I found that tremendously worthwhile. It's technical in nature, but our colleagues ought to focus on those pages, particularly when it comes to both the legality and the propriety of that information being shared. I would ask unanimous consent that be included in the record. The CHAIRMAN. We had included that in the record, but I think drawing your attention to those pages is also appropriate. Senator Bond, a vote has started. You're next. Id like to start with you and see how far we can get and, in light of the fact we're going to have to adjourn for this vote, we should go on. I'd like to resume. I've talked to all the Members present. Some wish to have a few additional questions. Some think they'll need the whole time period, some not, I think we can finish here. I'd like to do that right after this vote so we can save the remainder of the day for Ms. Hanson, who I think we need to hear from. She will address many of these same issues, and I'd like to bring her on as early this afternoon as we can. But I want to make sure-everybody has a chance to finish up with these witnesses. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman 65 Senator SARBANES. Can we get some sense of bow much time this panel will involve, because some of us may not have any further questions for this panel. The CHAIRMAN. I think, from my estimation here, 30, 35 minutes from what Members have said to me. Now, that can change based on what develops, but that's my best estimate based on asking each Senator Domenici. I'm going to go vote and come back. inn Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman an, I'm going to do the same. I'm going to vote, come back, and have my questions. The CHAIRMAN. Very good. Senator Bond. Senator BOND. Hopefully, we can go quickly and finish up in 7 minutes. I'm going to follow up on the line of questions asked by my good friend from Connecticut. I want him to know that. Senator DODD. I'm going to stick around. Senator BOND. We have bad in the record significant discussions. The written answer provided to me by the RTC said the reason that you don't disclose an ongoing investigation is because it may serve to alert a suspect that an investigation may be pending and enable the suspect to conceal or destroy evidence, conceal or dissipate the proceeds of the crime, fabricate evidence, or otherwise impede the investigation. That's correct, Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. If a subject or a suspect who had been tipped off had concealed, destroyed, dissipated proceeds, or fabricated evidence, you may not know that. Is that correct? Mr.RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. Thus, when you say that there has been nothing as a result of this tipoff that would impede the investigation, you can speak with knowledge about the work going on internally at the RTC, but do you have any means of knowing whether any action was taken by any of the people mentioned in the referral, whether it was Governor Tucker or other subjects? Do you have any positive knowledge that no steps were taken by the people named in the referral? Mr. Roelle? Mr. ROELLE. Sir, I think I answered that. I'm not aware of anything. Senator BOND. Ms. Kulka? Ms. KULKA. I would have no knowledge, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Ryan? Mr. RYAN. I would have no knowledge. Senator BOND. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. There's no way to make that determination. Senator BOND. That's precisely the reason you don't disclose it, because you as regulators would have great difficulty finding out if there was a premature disclosure and you bad not been able to proceed with your investigation. Ms. KULKA. Sir, that is why I continue, in every forum I have, to try to protect the information that we are gathering with respect to our investigation. I am concerned, sir, that it could be released to anyone who does not have an absolute need to know because of its utility for other people, and it goes way beyond the specific issues you've raised. 66 Senator BOND. I would agree with you. I think it is quite accurate. I would ask, Mr. Ryan, the Office of Government Ethics report that we've discussed, laid out specifically why possibilities of a leak or press inquiries were not an adequate basis for destroying the confidentiality. Do you agree, and is it the policy of the RTC that the possibility of a press inquiry or a prospective leak is a sufficient reason to divulge confidential information?

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460137_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(14:01:05) Mr. RYAN. I have not seen that report. I haven't had an opportunity to review it in depth. Senator BOND. Let me ask you another way. Were you to have' an exception that said if there was a prospective leak or a possible press inquiry, would that not open you to disclosure of every piece of confidential information? Mr. RYAN. It would. Senator BOND. Excuse me, let the record say that Mr. RYAN. It would. Senator BOND. -Mr. Ryan said that it would. Because, once the press found that the RTC was a great fishing ground, you could expect Mr. Katsanos' phone to ring 24 hours a day. Is that correct? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Katsanos? Mr. KATSANOS. That is correct. The CHAiRMAN. Sounds like it's been ringing 24 hours a day. Senator BOND. I bad some questions for Mr. Roelle. The CHAIRMAN. He'll be back in just a -moment. Ile had to step away for a second. Mr, KATSANOS. Senator Bond, may I inject one point here on the question of referrals? Senator BOND. Yes. Mr. KATSANOS. Our policy is if a reporter approaches our office and has information, and in our determination very good information, about a referral, we still would not acknowledge it. Senator BOND. I thank you, sir, and I believe that makes great sense. Ms. Kulka, let me turn to you. What was it that led you to write the memo on February 4, 1994, discussing appropriate limitations on discussion? Was there a query? Was there information that came to your attention that necessitated such a memo? Ms. KULKA. I think it was partly my frustration for seeing how things operated at the RTC, especially Mr. Katsanos' Early Bird, which I believe spread information around to inappropriate people. For instance, those things are not marked confidential. They're not delivered in sealed envelopes. They are delivered to the outside inbox so anyone passing through my office, for instance, could see them. I thought they provided a lot of information or misinformation that we would neither want to deny nor admit, and that was endemic to what was going on at the RTC that caused me the kind of concerns that led me, after the discussion with Mr. Ryan, to issue this memo. Senator MACK. With respect to-was there a particular reason why that memo was written 2 days after the White House meeting? Ms. KuLKA. No. 67 Senator BOND. You did not know about the White House meeting'? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator BOND. In preparing the briefing for the February 24, 1994, appearance before the Banking Committee, did Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson reveal to the people involved in the meeting the existence of the fall 1993 briefings to the White House? Ms. KuLKA. No. Senator Bond. That was not discussed? Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Roelle, in your first meeting with Mr. Altman, he laid down certain guidelines with respect to special measures to be taken when there were high-profile individuals affiliated with failed S&L's. Is that correct? Mr. ROELLE. The first meeting on Madison? Senator BOND. March 1993. Mr. ROELLE. Yes, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Altman said he didn't want to read it in the paper. Mr. ROELLE. That's correct. Senator BOND. This became your standard operating procedure. You wanted to make sure he didn't read any of these things in the paper. Mr. RoELLE. That's correct. ..Senator BOND. If they involved high-profile individuals. Mr. RoELLE. That's correct. Senator BOND. Mr. Roelle, were you involved in any discussions with Mr. Altman, Ms. Hanson, Mr. Newman, or other Treasury officials in the time period of March to May 1993, on the issue of the RTC's position on extending the statute of limitations which, as you may recall, was conveyed in a reversal of policy and the letter signed May 4, 1993, by Mr. Altman, in which the RTC went on record as saying it no longer supported extension of the statute of limitations? Mr. ROELLE. Yes, I'm aware there were a number of discussions. Senator BOND. Who was involved and what was the subject of those discussions? Mr. ROELLE. It's whether-there's two issues, just so everybody understands. There's two issues relating to the statute of limitations, There's one relating to our ability to pursue cases that have wrongdoing with regard to willful intent and fraud. And then there was the issue-the later issue with regard to some of the States being in conflict with

Queen Attends Royal Ascot
Clip: 425275_1_1
Year Shot: 1964 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1725
Original Film: 037-050-03
HD: N/A
Location: Berkshire
Timecode: 00:09:26 - 00:10:27

(Letterboxed, compressed full-screen 1.85:1) "This is the place to go when you want to watch the nags, the thoroughbreds run. The Queen leads a posh crowd attending the Royal Ascot and many people actually watch the race." LS Queen Elizabeth II and entourage walking onto racetrack. MS Queen Elizabeth II. High angle LS crowd at track. CU woman looking through binoculars. Panign TLS start of horse race. CU high society woman wearing clamshell hat, gloves, raising binoculars to eyes. Panning h/a LS last stretch of horse race, winner Zalukas crossing finish line. H/a TLS Zalukas & jockey being led to victory circle.

Space-Monkeys
Clip: 425358_1_1
Year Shot: 1967 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1764
Original Film: 040-080-04
HD: N/A
Location: Space lab testing facility
Timecode: -

Aerospace monkeys demonstrate their reactions to audible and visual commands while simulated altitude pressures are changed. The tests indicate the probable reactions of future astronauts. A monkey is held in a retaining device. A caged monkey plays with dials. A technician adjusts knobs on a laboratory control panel. Several shots of a monkey undergoing a flight simulation test. Close caption video footage of the monkey during test.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460139_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
Audio: Yes
Video: Color
Tape Master: 10058
Original Film: 102866
HD: N/A
Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
Timecode: -

(14:29:15) Hearing resumes: The CHAIRMAN. We invite the witnesses to come back to the witness table. 69 Let me say to all of you, I know it's been a long morning and it's difficult to be here for that length of time. We're sensitive to that and I think we'll be able to finish up in a reasonable amount of time now that we've resumed. There are a few Senators that have some remaining questions for you, so we'll try to work through those. When we finish, it would be my intention to take a late afternoon lunch break, a half hour or thereabouts. I'll set the time exactly when we finish. When we complete that, we'll have Ms. Hanson in this afternoon, take her statement, and proceed with questions in her instance. Senator Boxer, let me yield to you now. Senator BOXER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Let me say, since this is my last round, I appreciate the witnesses' candor with us, You have told us what you believe and you've said it straight from the shoulder. We can't expect any more of you than that. I feel very good that you're the kind of people you are. To go back to had little discussion with Mr. Katsanos over this Early Bird, I would just give you-you didn't ask me for this-but just a little bit of my own experience as a reporter. Many times when I was working on a story, the result was it didn't pan out. Sometimes you start on a story, you ask a lot of questions just to get some light in somebody's eye, and the thing never materializes. If somebody repeats certain accusations you make, by way of a question or whatever else, it could really do damage. So I would urge you-and I would address this to Mr. Ryan more than you, because you work for him. That's my understanding. Is that correct? Mr. KATsANos. That is correct. Senator BOXER. Since, presumably, only six people get this, I would just do a little E-mail and mark it confidential if there's something they need to know about. I think a lot of this stuff is just rumor and garbage and I don't think it serves the taxpayers to be spending our money in that way. It reminds me, we all know that it doesn't feel great to wake up in the morning and see a press story. I mean, gosh, we're elected by the people. We don't want to see a bad press story. But if we or our staff spent our waking hours printing up what might be said by the press or what we might read, we wouldn't get our work done. Therefore, I would urge that we give this thing a little burial. That's my suggestion. I nave a question for Mr. Ryan, Ms. Kulka, and Mr. Roelle, and I think it's just a yes or no. I'll start with Mr. Ryan and work down through the three of you. Did Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson ever ask for details about the content of RTC criminal referrals or the civil investigation of Madison Guaranty? Mr. RYAN. No. Ms. KULKA. No, Senator. Mr. ROELLE. No. Senator BOXER. Did Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson ever ask for information on the progress of the criminal referrals or on the status of the RTC civil investigation of Madison? Mr. RYAN. Not to me, no. Senator BOXER, Ms. Kulka? 70 Ms. KULKA. No, other than to make sure that it was-the civil investigation was ongoing, that was the only information asked for or received. Senator BOXER. Mr. Roelle? Mr. ROELLE. No. Senator BOXER. Did any White House staff ask you for details about the content of RTC criminal referrals or the civil investigation of Madison Guaranty? Mr. RYAN. No, Senator. Ms. KULKA. No. Mr. ROELLE. No. Senator BOXER. Have any of you been pressured by the White House staff to take certain action on or come to certain conclusions about the Madison Guaranty case, either criminal or civil? Mr. RYAN, No. Ms. KuLKA. No. Mr. ROELLE, No. Senator BOXER. The reason I wanted to ask those questions for the American people, was because I think that when we're looking at the substance of this investigation ' it's important to note Mr Chairman, that none of these witnesses-actually, we have in the case of Ms. Kulka, she's in charge of the lawsuit-but none of them have stated they had any pressure brought upon them, in any way, on either the criminal or the civil side of this investigation. I think it's important for us to ferret where the pressure points were on the RTC. They certain] weren't coming from the White had House, or from Mr. Altman or Ms. Hanson, as we can tell fro these witnesses, who I have no reason to believe were not telling us the truth, nor do I think my Republican friends believe that to be the case. So, here we have witnesses stating very clearly that no pressure was put on them, vis-a-vis the substance of these investigations. As I look at where the pressure points are, maybe we can take the issue of the hiring of Mr. Stephens. He was certainly a con-' controversial appointment, given his record of on-the-record criticisms of this President. I read them myself. They're pretty harsh. He has every right to' make those, but the fact is, this is the man who was hired via Pillsbury. Ms. Kulka, am I correct in asking you, in suggesting that you have stated to the Committee that no pressure was put on you to dismiss Mr. Stephens once be was hired, Is that correct? Ms. KuLKA, That's correct. Senator BOXER. No one asked you to fire Mr. Stephens or in any way change the hiring of Pillsbury? Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator BOXER. Is that correct, Mr. Ryan, from your standpoint? Mr. RYAN. That's correct. Senator BOXER. All right. We bad no pressure put on either of these areas. In my, view, there was a lot of talking, too much talking going on, vis-a-vis the Early Bird, within the RTC and you don't even know who leaked a lot of this. As I understand it, Mr. Ryan, you're going to see who's been leaking some of this information. Is that correct? Mr. RYAN. That's correct.

August 1, 1994 - Part 3
Clip: 460140_1_1
Year Shot: 1994 (Actual Year)
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Location: Dirksen Senate Office Building
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(14:35:13) 71 Senator BOXER. I urge you to do that, There was lots of talking, in my opinion, inappropriately, by the White House staff. We're here to function as a Government, to live with the services people need, to have an economic strategy for this Nation, which we finally have on course, and many other things. It seems to me to be a waste of time to rap to one another about what may or may not be something the press is going to write about. It's a hum-an instinct , but I think it doesn't serve any of us well. I believe, by the way, that lesson has been learned. If we're to believe Mr. Cutler, and I believe he's an honorable person, he essentially said too much talking on and on. As I look at it, Mr. Chairman, I'll close here at this point, Where were the pressure points on these people? There were a couple of pressure points, but they came from Members of Congress. I think that's the news of the day. Ms. Kulka testified that outside of Members of Congress suggesting bow to handle Whitewater, in doing tolling agreements and all that, no one else got involved in anything to do with this matter. I'm not saying the pressure was inappropriate. Don't get me wrong. A meeting was set up by Senator DAmato and, as I understand it, on further discussion with the Chairman, the Chairman had nothing to do with that meeting. That meeting was set up by Senator DAmato. He summoned, or summoned through his staff, Mr. Ryan, who never before bad ever come up to the Hill, to answer these types of questions, There was pressure put on, but, as far as I'm concerned, the pressure did not come from Mr. Altman, Ms. Hanson, the Treasury, or White House officials. While there was altogether too much talking, the pressure points didn't come from the White House. Ironically, it seems to me, more pressure was coming from the Congress. I'm finished. The CHAIRMAN. Yes, I know. I'm just checking to make sure we covered everybody who wanted to be recognized on the first go around. We're starting down the second time. Senator Hatch has spoken so it would be Senator Faircloth's opportunity. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. We'll come right down the table on that side and this side in rotating order. provided document Senator FAIRCLOTH. On the question that the RTC ' to Representative Leach, in addition to placing the RTC's legal brief in their action with Mr. Leach in the record, I would also move that Re presentative Leach's brief in that case be made a I part of this record. The CHAIRMAN, Can I take that under advisement? I have no idea what's within the scope of what they've assembled, and I want to make sure some of the stuff they have doesn't go beyond our scope requirement. I'd be happy to look at that. I'm not familiar with it. If I can reserve on that, we'll take a look at it and if there's no problem we'll put it in. Senator FAIRCLOTH. No problem. Ms. Kulka, earlier, Mr. Ryan confirmed that the RTC has in its Possession a report prepared by Memphis attorney Stanley HugOns, known as either the Huggins report or the Garish report. Ms. Kula', have you seen this report? Ms. KuLKA. I've seen a report by Mr. Garish. 72 Senator FAIRCLOTH. Has anyone at the White House or one of their personal attorneys contacted you about it? Ms. KULKA. No, sir, Senator FAIRCLOTH. Do you know it anyone outside of the RTC has a copy of the report? Ms. KULKA. I have DO way of knowing, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I understand that you moved from the Office of Thrift Supervision to the Resolution Trust Corporation about the middle of January 1994. Ms. KULKA. That's correct. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Your second workday you begin to discuss' the matter of Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan with Roger Alt Senator FAIRCLOTH. Only Madison. Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator FAIRcLoTH. The investigation of Madison was the only investigation you discussed with him. So, as far as you know, Madison was the only RTC investigation that any RTC staff briefed Mr. Altman on. Ms. KuLKA. I don't know, sir, but that's the only one where we received so many congressional inquiries at that time. Senator FAIRCLOTH. But that's the only one you talked to him about. Ms. KuLKA. That's correct. Senator FAIRCLOTH. How many times did you discuss Madison: Guaranty with Mr. Altman? Ms. KuLKA. To the best of my recollection, other than the briefings for the oversight board hearings, it may have been 2 or 3 times. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Do you remember the dates? Ms. KuLKA. I really don t, sir.

Strike Bound:---Philadelphians Walk
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Year Shot: 1963 (Actual Year)
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Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Timecode: 00:41:25 - 00:43:45

Strike-Bound:---Philadelphians Walk---U.S. Studies Dock Tie Up Image is dark and hard to see. The rash of strikes that have hit vital services along the East Coast spreads to Philadelphia's transportation system. Half million people are walking to work or making use of hastily contrived car pools as streetcars, subways and busses lie idle in a wage dispute. New York City newspaper strike, now in its 6th week, seems to be headed for still further stalemates. The President's fact-finding board is trying to work out an agreement that might end the multimillion dollar longshoremen s strike. People walking along busy street, traffic. Strikers, men wearing signs. Buses parked in terminal, idle. Subway station - sign "Station Closed". Empty train station (subway platform). Commuters packed in suburban train station. People, commuters going through turn-style in train station. Policeman directing traffic. Group of African American women wearing winter coats lined up along street, waving thumbs (hitch-hiking). Group of people run for taxi-cab, people pile into cab. Traffic at stand still. Strikers walking along sidewalk. Interior of empty newspaper office. Queen Mary docked. VO says office workers are pulled in to help dock vessel because of the strike. Men pulling ropes, towing in liner. 2 Men push cart full of suitcases. Woman and man pushing their own luggage. Two men carry trunk down street. Low angle bow of Queen Mary liner.

Yesterday's Big Story - Truman was sworn in as President and Funeral of FDR
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Year Shot: 1945 (Actual Year)
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Video: B/W
Tape Master: 1709
Original Film: 036-027-05
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Location: United States
Timecode: 00:17:53 - 00:19:39

Yesterday's Big Story. In April 1945, Harry S, Truman was sworn in as President of the United States just four hours after the sudden death of Franklin D. Roosevelt shocked and saddened the free world. Men and women wept openly as the funeral procession moved slowly through the streets of Washington en route to the final resting place at Hyde Park, New York. Harry S. Truman is sworn in, in one hand he holds the bible and the other hand is raises as he's sworn in into Presidential office. MS - Outside shot of the White House the flag is flown at half mass in honor of the late President Franklin D Roosevelt. MA - There's a funeral procession and it the casket carrying the remains of President Roosevelt. People line the streets crying openly. Above shot - Shot of the cars in the funeral parade. MCUS - A lady of color openly crying.. MS - President Roosevelt's remains are carried on the Hyde Park Estate. CUS - Senator Bartley, "Arvin". CUS - Supreme Court Justice, Fred Vincent CUS - New York Senator, Herbert Layman, CUS - Chief of Staff , George Marshall with Admiral, Earnest King. MCUS - President Truman and his wife attend the funeral. MLS - His casket being lowered and there must be 1,000 bouquet of flowers at the grave site.

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