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Spring Is In The London Air
Will somebody nudge the weatherman and tell him s-p-r-i-n-g is here- Spring fashions- that is. These British styles are all feminine, aimed at adding glamour to that Spring event. Spring- it's wonderful. Model is wearing a double breasted, coat like, A-line dress, accented by a turn down brim hat in a pastel color. CU - Some of the women in the audience at the fashion show. CUS - Model wearing a floppy hat that resembles a huge bow. Around her neck she is wearing a 5-strain of pearls. Model unbuttons her coat and the lining of her coat is the same as her dress. MS - Model is wearing a pastel satin coat and a lace dress. MS - Model is wearing a dark and light reversible coat, and a printed dress, accented by a huge brim hat. MS - Model comes out wearing a satin coat over a long evening dress printed with flowers (asian influence, exotic). MS - Model has on a gold coat and goat jacket with the sleeves lined in fur. MS - Model is wearing a tubular dress with fine crystal embroidery on tulle.
Esplanade To Beautify Los Angeles
As a contribution to Mrs. Lyndon Johnson's beautification campaign, Jules Stein, MCA Board Chairman, improves a Los Angeles thoroughfare and formally presents it to the city's mayor, Sam Yorty. Jules Stein shaking hands with Los Angeles mayor, Sam Yorty. Street Signs - Ventura and Lakershim Blvd. Traffic, Street signs Ventura and Lakershim Blvd. Mrs. Nelly Knutson, president of Los Angeles Beautiful standing with Jules Stein and Mayor Sam Yorty.
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 5, 1973
[00.00.50--Robert REISNER, former aide to MAGRUDER at CRP, testifying] I simply realized that there was a similarity there. Senator ERVIN. When were you subpenaed to go before the, grand jury? Mr. REISNER. On April 8. It was at a subsequent meeting with Mr. Silbert that I described that, document to him. It Was in a previous appearance before the grand jury that I described virtually all that I have described here today, Senator ERVIN. Did you talk to Mr. Silbert before you talked to this committee staff? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator ERVIN. Were you subpenaed before the grand jury before you talked to the staff of this committee? Mr. Reisner To be precise, on March 30. your staff subpenaed me, which was the first time I had heard from an investigatory body. I met with two of your investigators on that Friday. The subpena was canceled. I believe, Mr. Chairman, you were out of town and returned and the nature of the proceeding changed. Subsequently, I was subpenaed by the grand jury and appeared there. Senator ERVIN. Now, did you receive a, phone call or any communciation from Mr. Magruder after you were subpenaed to go before the grand jury or before our committee? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir; on that Friday, which was, I believe, March 30. Actually, it was in the newspaper before I knew what was going to happen. I read in the newspaper that morning that I was to be subpenaed Senator ERVIN. What did Mr. Magruder ask you to do? Mr. REISNER. He asked me to get together with him, He called me at home and asked me to get together with him that morning. He asked me whether he could take me to work. I indicated that I didn't think that was appropriate, because I presumed that the reason I was being subpenaed before this committee was to discuss Mr. Magruder; therefore, I didn't think it was appropriate for us to meet. He then called me again that morning to urge a meeting. I suggested there should be a third person there. 'We set a meeting. Then I chose not to attend the meeting. I wanted to be firm about not meeting' with him. Senator ERVIN. Did he say anything to you in either of those conversations about meeting with a Paul O'Brien? Mr. Reisner Yes, sir; the nature of that was this, as I understand it. I indicated to him that, if we were going to meet, there should be a third person there. He said, well, we will have to find someone. How about if we find either Paul O'Brien or Ken Parkinson, who were counsel to the committee? I said that that would be acceptable, but subsequently called O'Brien at 11 o'clock that morning and said that I didn't think it was appropriate to get together with the man about whom I was going to be asked to testify. Mr. O'Brien agreed with that and said that he understood completely and there was no problem. Senator ERVIN. Did Mr. O'Brien give you advice about or make an off offer of help to you? Mr. REISNER. MR. O'Brien? Senator ERVIN. Yes, Mr. REISNER. Well, yes, sir, be was counsel to the. committee, and I think he said, I will be glad to help you, Bob," but, he said, "I think you -will have to realize That if you have independent, counsel or someone who is independent who can give you advice, that may, be our best. situation. After all, I have to represent the committee as well. Senator ERVIN. What was Magruder's reaction when you told him. That-- Mr. REISNER. I didn't, want to come to the meeting? Senator ERVIN. [continuing]. That you didn't want to meet him. Mr. REISNER. He called Mr. O'Brien's office expecting me to be there and found out, I wasn't, going to attend. His response was, extremely agitated. he felt he wanted to know what I thought I was doing. He also indicated to me that--I had said to Mr. O'Brien by didn't think there was very much I could provide, that would be helpful to this committee and Mr. O'Brien had apparently--we just discussed briefly the nature of the evidence I could provide and Mr. Magruder--one of the pieces of evidence, of course, was the easel. We mentioned that and I think Mr. Magruder stood that he didn't--he Said there was no easel. He said, I don't see how you can remember that. Senator ERVIN, Now, he called you at your home, didn't he, and talked about that? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator ERVIN. That was the third telephone call he made to you that day? Mr. REISNER. Yes, Sir. Senator ERVIN. I would like you by to explain the conversation, what did you tell him outside of the easel and what did he tell you? Mr. REISNER. What, did he tell me? Senator ERVIN. Yes. Mr. REISNER. He also indicated to me--well, the nature of' the conversation was one in which he was saying to me, you, know, what are you doing? There was no easel Then he said, I can't, understand this. He said, you know, are you not going to be cooperative? Are you not going--everyone else, has been cooperative, or something to that effect. Now, in fairness to 'Mr. Magruder here, because I think it is bordering on a very serious point that I have discussed with your staff. there was a fourth phone call on that day. He. I think, knew that he didn't wish to--that I didn't want, to meet with him. He called my home and had my wife call me and ask me to call him that evening. Now, in that evening phone call, the entire nature of the phone call was different. I think he said that he was upset, that he was sorry if he was, overly anxious. He said he just. wanted me to realize that there Were some extremely serious matters concerned here and that I should treat them in that way. I said I intended to treat them in that way. [00.06.18]
Track Meet: AAU Records Set At Tourney
From the broad jump to the mile run, there's a thrill-a-minute at the AAU games in New York. Russian ace Igor Ter-Ovanesyan sets an indoor mark in the broad jump with a leap of 26 feet, 6 1/2 inches. In the mile run it's Jim Beatty all the way as he turns in a neat 3 minutes 59 seconds. Over head shot of the sports spectators in attendance. CUS - General Douglas MacArthur. MSOH - Sixty-yard dash. MOHS - The hurdles. MS - Pole Vault. MS - Long jump. MS - High jump. MS - One mile indoor run. CUS - Jim Beatty receiving his award.
Mountaineers Feed Hungry Animals
Mountaineers Feed Hungry Animals Rarely seen Alpine game - deer and mountain goat - are forced by the heavy snows of the terrible 1963 winter to come down from their peaks and be fed by mountaineers. Even so, it is feared that only 4,000 of the 20,000 beautiful creatures will survive. Alpine deer driven by hunger. CU - Mountaineer bringing hay for the deer. CU - A young deer looking at the camera man then runs away.
The House Of Dior - Fashion Parade
The House of Dior shows its 1963 spring fashion collection in Paris. Stricter lines and longer skirts are the rule, with the double-breasted suit and flaring collar back. Evening gowns follow classic lines with fancy applications. Three models elevated up on blocks, standing still and you see just the silhouettes MCUS - Model has a straw hat with a large brim, a short suit jacket that just comes under the bodice, she opens the jacket exposing a very pretty plain black dress. MCUS - Model has a felt hat with the brim turned down. a light colored woolen coat with a tie around the waist and a sleeveless woolen, belted dress. MCUS - Model has a large hat with a large brim and it has the same pattern as the large flowered dress, her gloves come over the elbow. MS - Model is wearing a flowered rayon dress and a hat to match. MS - Model is wearing a woolen coat and a woolen suit. MS - Evening dresses follow the classic mode. One model has long evening dress with a beaded top and a bolero jacket and the other model has a long evening gown looks like it could be a knitted dress that goes over one shoulder. MCUS - A long evening gown with beads periodically sewn on, long gloves that go over the elbow. MS - Model is wearing a knit dress with spark-a-lees sewn in the knit itself and a shawl to match. MCUS - A short evening dress with lots of material on top and a very full skirt.
Winter Sports Roundup
Sports fans in Germany take advantage of the snowy winter to turn lakes into race-tracks. Motorcycles, with and without side cars, sports cars and even farm horses careen over the ice as though it were a fast track in July. Motorcycles racing on ice. CUS - Sports Crowd. MCUS - Individual shots of motorcyclist racing around the bend. MS - Looks like two of the racers are battling it out for first place. CUS - Racing fan, he looks silly because he has his knit ski cap pushed down on the top of his ears, so his ears are fanned out. MS - Motorcycles with side cars racing. Sports cars racing on ice and snow.
Sub-Zero Warfare: Canada and US In Joint Maneuvers
Sub-Zero Warfare Canada-U.S. Hold Joint Maneuvers. A giant exercise to train combat troops in arctic warfare gets underway in Alaska. Alaskan Command paratroopers with units from other strategic Army and Air Force units join with Princess Pat Infantry, Canada's crack regiment in successfully battling Old Man Winter - the second enemy. Plane taking off from a snow packed runway. MS - Inside the fuselage sitting on the floor are Alaskan Command Paratroopers. CUS - Behind the pilot of the plane. Plane to ground - Mountain terrain. CUS - The Princess Pat Infantry. Air to Air: Alaskan Command and Princess Pat Infantry jumping from the plane. Ground to air - The air-born planes and a line of paratroopers floating down. LS - The paratroopers landing in snowy surroundings. MCUS - Camp site with falling snow, tanks covered with snow. MS - Small tanks moving down a snow covered road with a soldier half way out the open hatch. MS to MLS - US Helicopter lifting off with something hanging from a cable. MS - F-100 Super Saber Jets taking off from run-way. Air to Air - You see the pilot flying the jet sitting in the cock-pit. MLS - Super Saber Jets flying in formation.
Winter Turnpike: Frozen Zuyder Zee Becomes Highway
Frozen Zuyder Zee Becomes Highway. Europe's severest winter in generations has made a thruway out of Holland's Zuyder Zee as autos make the sixty-mile trio from one side to the other as the ice reaches a thickness of 3 feet. Night finds a revival of the torch light parade every one from grandfather to toddler takes part as well as grandmothers to daughters. This is an aerial shot of the frozen Zuyder Zee, the inland sea that has frozen over. MS - Police directing traffic on the Zuyder Zee. MS - On coming cars driving on the frozen sea. MS - MCUS - A gas station set up on the frozen sea so cars can travel safely. MS - Dutch people choose to skate the 60-mile width of the sea. MCUS - People lighting torches, throngs gather.
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 5, 1973
[00.06.18] Senator ERVIN. Did he tell you at that time that you should be careful about what you said because people's lives and futures were at stake.? Mr. REISNER. Yes, he did. That was in that second phone, call and that was by way of explaining to me why be was so concerned. Senator ERVIN, Just for my edification, I wish you would explain about the easel story, because I don't quite understand. Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. I think the nature of the easel story is just that Mr. Liddy came to me indicating that be was going to have a meeting with Mr. Mitchell and that he wished to have some sort of a prop to use, on which to use visual aids. I indicated to him I would try to look for such a prop. I had, I think, one of the secretaries call Mr. Mitchell's office, and see whether there was such a prop. I don't think there was. Senator ERVIN. In other words, Mr. Liddy told you he was going to meet with Mr. Mitchell. Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator ERVIN. And be asked you if you could got him an easel on which he could display charts for Mr. Mitchell's-- Mr. REISNER. He did not say to display charts, but I presumed that is what it was. Senator ERVIN. Senator Baker. Senator BAKER. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. If there is .no objection by you and the committee, I would like to yield now to Senator Weicker to examine the witness. Senator WEICKER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Reisner I would like to go back to the evening of June 17, because as I understand your testimony, and if I also understand testimony that has been given before this committee, there seems to be some discrepancy as to what occurred. Now, just let me try to go over the sequence of events that transpired with the phone call to Mr. Magruder the evening of the 17th from Mr. Magruder's office. Was Mr. Odle on the phone when you spoke to Mr. Magruder? Mr. Reisner Yes. Senator WEICKER. During the entire time? Mr. Reisner It is my belief that he was on the phone during the entire time. As I remember the phone call, he initiated it. Senator WEICKER. Now, may I stop you? Mr. Odle initiated the phone call? Mr. Reisner Yes sir. Senator WEICKER. Why would he have initiated it'? Mr. REISNER. He, I think, came into the room and said, what are you doing here? I said, Jeb called me and asked me to come down here. He then said something to the effect--well, he said--I said that the reason I was down there was to remove some sensitive things from the file and that that is what Jeb wanted me to do. He said do you know exactly what he wants? I said, no, not really. He said, I think we ought to tell him about the news, or something to that effect. So he called Mr. Magruder. When he placed that call, Senator, I had the impression that he had made several calls that day and that, he was just staying in touch again. Senator WEICKER. And the call having been placed to Mr. Magruder, -was it then Mr. Odle that led off the inquiry, or were you the first one to speak to Mr. Magruder, and was the nature of the question as to what was meant by sensitive material? Mr. REISNER. As I recollect the thing, and you know, it, is a little bit--this is my best recollection. Mr. Odle began the conversation by describing the evening news and what had been shown on the evening news that day. the second thing that He discussed I think, was security. It seems to me that he must have said something like he had in fact doubled the guard and everything was OK. But he said, now, Bob tells me that there are some things you want to get, out of the office, or, You know, that there are sonic things here that you want to have us take home; can I help, or something to that effect. He said, what is it that you want? And that was where Mr. Magruder, I think, began describing precisely what it was that he wanted. Senator WEICKER. [now presiding]. And did Mr. Magruder describe precisely what was that was to be removed from his desk? Mr. REISNER. OK, now, as to whether Mr, Magruder used the word "Gemstone" to describe exactly what it was he wanted removed, I do not know It IS my initial recollection that he probably did, because it is during that second phone call that I came to know exactly that that file should be removed among other things. He may not have. I Just do not know the answer to that. Senator WEICKER. Did Mr. Odle assist in the removal of' material from Mr. Magruder's desk' Mr. REISNER. No sir; it was left to me to determine which Materials it, was that Mr. Magruder had described to me in that phone call. [00.11.31]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 5, 1973
[00.11.31] Senator WEICKER. Now, the materials that, were removed from 'Mr. Magruder's office by you an and Mr. Odle--Mr. Odle said that he returned the file on Monday morning. Would that be correct? Mr. REISNER. Yes, he did--I read his testimony. I believe that he did say that it was Monday morning. My recollection of his returning that file was not that it was Monday morning but, you know I do not,- I Senator WEICKER. Do you have any idea as to whether or not Mr. Odle would have known what was contained in the file which he took home? Mr. REISNER. No, I do not have any Idea. Senator WEICKER. By the nature of the phone conversation? Mr. REISNER. No, I 'do not. Senator WEICKER. But that was the same phone conversation which indicated to you-- Mr. REISNER. Which file it. was. that is correct, Senator WEICKER. [continuing.] Which file it was. Mr. REISNER. But as to the substance--- Senator WEICKER. But as to the contents--- Mr. REISNER. NO, sir, I do not have any knowledge of that. Senator WEICKER. Do you know of any phone calls as between Mr. Magruder and Mr. Colson? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator WEICKER. Concerning demonstration projects? Mr. REISNER. OK. I have read that. There was a story in the news recently. Senator WEICKER. I am interested in your knowledge and not what you have read. Mr. REISNER. OK, It is my impression that Mr. Colson was--let me go back. I think I have described earlier in testimony here that at the time of Mr. Hoover's death there was a demonstration. I think it was here on Capitol Hill. At that time, it seems to me. Mr. Magruder received a phone call in which he was instructed to get counterdemonstrators. Now, I was not monitoring the phone call. I was sitting in front, of him when 'he received the phone call; so I do not know exactly who it was. It was my impression that it was Mr. Colson that did that. The reason that I say that, is that, I think I subsequently said I. expressed some surprise about the activity. And he indicated to me Something along the lines of, "It is a throwaway; we have got to do things like this, because that allows us to say no when it is important." Senator WEICKER. Now, were there any other projects aside from' the conversations you have referred to that were discussed as between Mr. Magruder and the person whom you thought to be Mr. Colson? Mr. REISNER. OK. When I say thought to be, you know, it, was my impression that it was from the circumstances, and if asked who I thought it was, I thought it was Mr. Colson. But I cannot say that. It seems to me that Mr. Magruder also was called on a subsequent occasion. The reason I remember this is that he made some joke about the fact that he had gotten himself in trouble. The way he had gotten himself in trouble was that he had removed an individual who was supposed to be sitting in front Of the White House wearing a McGovern button. He had said, he had called it off. He had placed that individual there initially, I guess, and then had removed him. He received a phone call and again, it was my impression, but impression is as Close as I can come, that he had gotten himself in trouble and, therefore, replaced that demonstrator. Senator WEICKER. Now, during the period from June 19 to June 23 was there a general house cleaning of files and removal of so-called" sensitive material from the Committee To Re-Elect the President? Mr. REISNER. Well, as to whether other individuals of the com- committee removed material, I do not know. As to what material there' was in the committee, you know, I cannot be certain. But I have testified here today that I was asked to go through Mr. Magruder's files and to centralize the sensitive political material, that anything that is sensitive material takes on an added meaning. I do not mean that as Gemstone material. There was no other, as far as I know. Senator WEICKER. All right, within your knowledge, do you know where the orders came from as to this house cleaning? Mr. REISNER. No sir, I do not. Senator WEICKER. Prior to July 1, 1972, to whom were major committee policy memos distributed? Mr. REISNER. Prior to-I am sorry? Senator WEICKER. July 1 of' 1972. Mr. REISNER. Well, the major policy memos would have gone to Mr. Mitchell for his decision. Senator WEICKER. All right, after July 1, 1972, where did all major committee policy memos go? Mr. REISNER. To Clark MacGregor. Copies of them would have gone to 'Mr. Haldeman and additional copies would have gone to interested people in that particular decision. Senator WEICKER. Did Mr. Strachan play a role in the dissemination of the material as to whom it would go to? Mr. REISNER. Subsequently Mr. Strachan was the Contact point in the While House and, therefore, those memos that we were discussing would have been sent to Mr. Strachan for Mr. Haldeman. That was the purpose of sending them to 'Mr. Strachan. [00.17.10]
Fashion Parade
From Budapest, Hungary, a surprising fashion show. It reveals that Communist women are becoming style conscious and are actually doing something about it. Competition for Paris, New York and Hollywood. Two models walk down some stairs wearing evening gowns that may be made of Thai silk. CU Two men heads turned to watch the fashion. Model is wearing dress, the side of the dress has a v-shaped opening to show off the curve of the model's waist. Dress is made of a linen blend and has large square patterns of different colors (op art). Model is wearing a picture frame hat, a 3-quarter length sleeve coat, that she opens her coat, exposing a large hounds tooth print dress that matches the top of her hat. Model is wearing a woolen blend coat, the lining matches the suit and hat that she is wearing. Model is wearing a woolen / cotton blend dress, a light color on top extending to her long sleeves on the dress that comes down to a v topped off by a medium size picture frame hat. Model is wearing a straight cut dress, the v-neck is trimmed in a dark color tying into a loose bow at the bottom of the v-neck. Her face is accented by her fringed picture frame hat. Man and woman, smiling. The models come out some wearing dresses others are wearing evening gowns
Braves Hailed In Atlanta
Atlanta, with a big, new circular Stadium to house them , hails the arrival of the Braves with a gigantic parade. The city's attainment to "Big League" status sets off a delirium of enthusiasm. The fact that a Wisconsin judge ruled the Braves belong in Milwaukee fails to dampen southern spirits. They look to a loophole in the ruling to save the day. The sky-line of downtown Atlanta, Georgia. Throngs of sports fans outside the new stadium. A motorcade parade of baseball players. Little boy sitting on top of his father's shoulders. A baseball player sitting on top of the back seat of a convertible holding his baseball cap in his hand waving to the hordes of people lined up at street side. CU little boy wearing a baseball cap sitting on the curb watching the parade of baseball players. CU street sign - Peachtree St. Three baseball players sitting in a convertible waving to the people. A young teenage boy sitting on top of a stop light watching the parade. Three baseball players sitting on top of the back seat of a convertible. High Angle Shot - The new baseball field in the new round baseball stadium. High Angle Shot - Stadium packed with people sitting on the new seats.
Nicklaus - King Of Golf
The dramatic highlights of the 1966 Master Golf tournament over the National Golf Club course at Augusta, Ga. The excitement of the 3 way tie that marked the final round and the deciding plays of the play off in which Jack Nicklaus emerged the winner to become the first man in the 32 years of Masters play to win the coveted title in successive years. Throngs of exuberant golf fans run out on to the golf course to watch Jack Nicklaus win the Master's Title two years in a row. Jack Nicklaus putting - the ball rolls 40 feet and stops short of making the hole. Golf fans all wearing sun glasses except a few. Nicklaus makes the hole, but he has to be happy with a three-way tie. Tommy Jacobs, Jack Nicklaus, Gay Brewer. CU Brewer driving the ball. Tommy Jacobs on the tee. Jack Nicklaus wearing a small straw hat is on the tee. High Angle Shot - Golf fans. Nicklaus sinks his putt defeating Jacobs by two strokes. High Angle Shot - People just flowing on to the golfing green surrounding Jack Nicklaus. Nicklaus putting on his Green Jacket.
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 5, 1973
[00.17.10] Senator WEICKER. After July I of' 1972, insofar as your own observation is concerned, was 'Mr. Clark MacGregor's role as the head of the Committee To Re-Elect the President a real role or was he a figurehead? Mr. REISNER. This was colored by the fact that I became Clark MacGregor's executive assistant. Senator WEICKER. I understand. Mr. REISNER. My impression was that, it certainly was. Senator WEICKER. Certainly was what? Mr. REISNER. A real role. That the activities for the Committee To Re-Elect the President increased as time went on, that the burden of the campaign director increased as the Campaign went on and, therefore, the activities that Mr. MacGregor performed may have been different than those that -Mr. Mitchell performed because of his own talents, and because of the fact there was more to do. Senator WEICKER. The running of the campaign from that, point, on, Was this a dual affair insofar as Mr. Strachan's role and Mr. MacGregor's role was concerned. How would you relate these two individuals? Mr. REISNER. No, Mr. Haldeman and Mr. MacGregor would both have been aware of decisions Concerning the campaign. Mr. Haldeman was informed after July 1 as he was prior to July I or) an information basis that decisions were those of the campaign director. Senator WEICKER. Lastly, did -Mr. Magruder ever tell you what happened to the Gemstone file after June 17? Mr. REISNER. Yes. In a, conversation that I think I began to go into with the chairman, Mr. Magruder during that conversation Said to me, "It's gone", I was asking about the Gemstone and its meaning and he said "I don't know what it means either, forget about it, it's gone, don't worry about it." I can only speculate as to what "It's gone" means. Senator WEICKER. I have no further questions at this time. I have to go vote. Senator INOUYE. Mr. Reisner, from your testimony you have indicated that you did inspect some of the so-called Gemstone files. You advised committee some of the files related to candidates and is believe you told the staff that some on' the related to a Presidential appointee and a Member of Congress. Were they all on a political nature? Mr. REISNER. Let me be specific about that, Senator, as to what I indicated to the staff. I indicated to the staff that the first time that I saw the word Gemstone was not in those materials that I have described as being the ones that I was asked to remove on June 17. There was an earlier occasion. The stationery was different. It seems to me that the memo said something like "Subject Gemstone" and there were two such memos that I remember having been marked destroy or something like that that were put in the outbox and it was from those two memos that I had gathered an impression of subject matter, but as to whether the means of obtaining that information was the same. I am not talking about the means of the subject matter . It was all political, wasn't it? Mr. REISNER. Those two pieces of general campaign intelligence that I have testified to, yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. Do you recall seeing anything referring to foreign organization or foreign countries? Mr. Reisner. No, sir; I do not. Senator INOUYE. Or international intrigue or conspiracy? Mr. REISNER. Let me, and this is again in order to be specific-in answer to your question I was asked by your staff whether I recognized other code names and I believe that the word "Crystal" was brought up in that connection. That sounds familiar. I do not know specifically that I had seen the word Crystal but it has a familiar sound to it. It seems to me that I had seen one or two other memos that concerned demonstrators, it concerned the kinds of things that I think Mr. McCord has testified about here before. But as to whether or not they related to Gemstone or to Crystal or anything like that, I cannot be specific because I do not remember. Senator INOUYE. You have testified that Mr. Sedan Chair received a thousand dollars a month. How long was he employed by your committee? Mr. REISNER. I do not know. I think, that if Sedan Chair referred to one individual, it was my impression that that individual was receiving compensation for approximately 6 to 9 months. Senator INOUYE. Do you know who Mr. Sedan Chair is? Mr. REISNER. No, sir; I do not. Senator INOUYE. I thought you told the committee that you had some idea as to his identity? Mr. REISNER. No, sir; at no time. Have I indicated that? I have indicated that I had some idea as to where he might have been located at one point in time but that I think is as close as I can come as to identity. Senator INOUYE. You have indicated you weren't quite certain of the nature of the Gemstone file and yet on June 17 when Mr. Magruder asked you to take those files home, you showed great reluctance to do so and had Mr. Odle take them back. Why were you so reluctant? Mr. REISNER. I think the nature of the reluctance was the nature of the circumstance under which the conversation took place. I think that had it come the other way, had Mr. Magruder said in the phone conversation YOU take that file home, I would have done SO. I do not think I would have had any reason not to. There was some hesitation, I think it, was because I did not know where the file was at the time he was saying to me on the phone you have the file, don't, you, and I was--in fact I did not know where it, was, and I think I said yes, I can find the, file. [00.23.32]
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 5, 1973
[00.23.32] Senator INOUYE. It is your testimony that you were not, aware of the nature of the Gemstone file? Mr. REISNER. With this exception. That I had a circumstantial understanding of who it came from. Senator INOUYE. And You were not aware-- Mr. REISNER. Mr. Liddy. And therefore I had some general awareness. Senator INOUYE. You were not, aware that the information gathered for the Gemstone file had been gathered illegally? Mr. REISNER. NO, Sir. Senator INOUYE. Beside Mr. Magruder have You met with any other person Who might have attempted to influence you in your presentation here or before. Any investigating group? Mr. REISNER. No, Sir; I had not met with Mr. Magruder and as I also indicated, I think he took back his--if that was intended--influence I think he apologized for it, Senator INOUYE. Did any other person call you? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir; I have received phone, calls from other individual,; who have business before this committee. Mr. Strachan called me, He did not -ask me, he did not try to influence me in any way. He just indicated he would like to get together and through counsel I declined. I was also called by Mr. Porter and he did -not, attempt to influence me. Senator INOUYE. Mr. Porter was a, full-time employee of the committee wasn't he? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator INOUYE. Was he on the payroll of some other organization? Mr. REISNER. Mr. Porter? Senator INOUYE. Yes. Mr. REISNER. Not to my knowledge. Senator INOUYE. Did you not testify that someone, I thought it Was Mr. Porter, was on a company payroll? Mr. REISNER. No, sir, Mr. Magruder had a conversation with 'Mr. Porter standing in front of me early in the year in which Mr. Magruder said something to the effect that we found a company where we can have individual who was working for Mr. Porter work for that company. Senator INOUYE. Was this common practice in the committee? Mr. REISNER. No, sir. Senator INOUYE. Now,, You discussed the so-called demonstrations and Hoover funeral. What was the nature of the, demonstrations? Mr. REISNER. At the demonstrations at the Hoover funeral. I do not know I know from reading newspaper accounts and I can fill it in, can fill in my own understanding of what took place. I think the significance of that phone call is one that is derived, it did not seem that significant at the time, Senator INOUYE. Thank you very much. Senator BAKER [now presiding], Mr. REISNER. it is possible the points I am going to raise have been raised in my absence. As you know, the committee had a rollcall vote to attend and part Of US left and part stayed in an effort to expedite the proceedings and hope fully to finish with your testimony today, so if the points I raise are repetitious, bear with me and we will move through them as fast as we can. It is my understanding that you met with staff of this committee on three separate occasions. Mr. REISNER. Four, sir. Senator BAKER. Four occasions. Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator BAKER. And in any event, the last occasion was at your request. Mr. REISNER. The third occasion was, yes. I met yesterday with the committee just to go through the notebook and to try to clarify some issues. Senator BAKER. But the third occasion then, was at your request? Mr. REISNER. As a matter of fact, Senator, it was directly in' response to a statement I think you had made at Friday's hearings. I think you described the nature of witnesses that you wanted to see and indicated that you did not know the questions to ask sometimes. There were also, as Senator WEICKER. has indicated, some conflicts" which I did not feel were material conflicts but they were issues I thought, I should discuss with the staff. Senator BAKER. We appreciate that and we appreciate your coming forward of your own volition to give additional testimony. The information I have from the staff memorandum here is that you had indicated, in fact, that you thought there were certain discrepancies that, you would like to clarify based on your understanding, of the facts and the facts as described by Mr. Odle. Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator BAKER. And that is the point I wanted to reach. Would you describe for me then the points where you thought additional clarification was required vis-a-vis the testimony of Mr. Odle? Mr. REISNER. Well, there may very well be points in your summary that I do not remember raising. It seen-is to me there were a few points of question in time. Who had the key to open the, desk? I had the key to open the desk. I worked for Mr. Magruder. Who left the room? Did Mr. Odle leave the room? It, seems to me he did but after the phone call. When did the phone call take place? I placed it shortly after 6 because when I arrived the news was on. What was discussed in the conversation? We reviewed that, but, I thought it was worth going over it again, Senator BAKER. So in effect, your tenor of testimony as evidence in your request for a third meeting with the staff was to supplement the testimony of Mr. Odle rather than to contradict the testimony. Mr. REISNER. Absolutely. I do not think there are any significant conflicts. Senator BAKER. I think you are to be commended for coming forward with that information. I appreciate your clarifying that point, Mr. Reisner. I understand that you did not interview with Porter or Mr. Magruder or Mr. O'Brien? Is that the burden of your testimony? Mr. REISNER. That I did not interview? Senator BAKER. Yes. Mr. REISNER. You mean-- Senator BAKER. Subsequent to the June 17 entry into the Watergate Complex, to discuss the nature of the situation, your role In the investigation, or any other aspect material to this inquiry. Mr. RIESNER. Not, precisely, testified that I had several conversations With Magruder subsequent, to June 17 in which this subject came up. [00.29.48]
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[00.29.48] Senator BAKER. Did you ever meet and talk with Mr. Magruder in Mr. O'Brien's office? Mr. REISNER. ,No, the only time testified have been in Mr. O'Brien's office was this April. I did not meet, with Mr. Magruder in Mr. O'Brien's office. I talked to him on the phone and he called me from Mr. O'Brien's office to express his displeasure at, My not coming to the meeting. I met with Mr. O'Brien subsequently in which I described the nature of the conversation, sure, go ahead and meet with his staff, Senator BAKER. For the record, -would you describe--would you say who Mr. O'Brien Is? Mr. REISNER. Mr. Paul O'Brien is lawyer here in Washington who was employed by the Re-Election Committee and in that role was just providing advice and the advice was you simply have, if you want to have counsel, you should have your own counsel, keep your own counsel, you know. Senator BAKER. Did he advise you? about what You should say to the staff or what you can testify. Mr. REISNER. He told me I should tell the truth. Senator BAKER. Did he, tell you anything else? Mr. REISNER. No, sir. Senator BAKER, I understand that you mentioned a conversation with Mr. Magruder and an unidentified party on the other end of the telephone you thought, might, be Mr. Colson. Mr. REISNER. I have testified I was sitting in Mr. Magruder's Office and listened to him receive a phone call. It is my impression it was from. Mr. Colson. Senator BAKER. I apologize to you for, not being present when you covered that testimony. But even acknowledging the repetition, would You tell me on what you base that conclusion? Mr. REISNER. It Just seems to me that, I do not, know, I had the impression that, that, particular phone. call came from Mr. Colson. It seems to me his secretary, Who would have been sitting practically in the entrance to his office might have said It is Mr. Colson or something like that. Senator BAKER. I am not trying to protect Mr. Colson, I am simply trying to sharpen the identification to have some bearing on the quality of the identification . So you are speaking of' Mr. Magruder's secretary. Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. There are any number of ways In -which I could have gained the impression that it was Mr. Colson. Senator BAKER. Can you help me any further? Mr. REISNER. It could have been, he could have said, he could have addressed him by -name or something in the phone call. Subsequently, I do remember having a conversation about this kind of thing. Maybe it is important to bring up the nature of how I testified to that phone call to the staff. I think the staff was asking me about demonstrators and they were saying, well, what would cash--what cash would have been spent on, do you have any knowledge of demonstrators. and I said I only have knowledge of this one occasion possibly this other one. Senator BAYER, IS that the total of your information on the question of identifying Mr. Colson as the other end of the telephone conversation? Mr. REISNER. To the best, of my recollection it was just gained circumstantially from sitting in front of this man and gaining a feeling of who he was talking to, Senator BAKER. I am trying to be fair to both you and Mr. Colson. It is your firm impression that was Mr. Colson on the other end of the telephone but you cannot supply additional information on which you base that judgment. Is that a fair restatement, of your situation? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir perhaps even less strongly. I think I indicated it could have been Mr. Howard, Mr. Colson's assistant. Senator BAKER, Mr. Reisner, time is growing short and we are going to have another rollcall very shortly. With other witnesses I assume you are willing to return and give further testimony if that becomes necessary? Mr. REISNER. Certainly. Senator BAKER. I would yield now, if I may, to Senator Gurney. Senator GURNEY. Mr. Reisner, who employed you at the Committee To Re-Elect, the President? Mr. REISNER. Who employed me.; who offered me the job? Senator GURNEY. Yes. Mr. REISNER. Mr. Magruder did. Senator GURNEY. Were you recommended by anybody? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir; I was; I was recommended by 'Mr. Malek to Mr. Magruder, Senator GURNEY. What was your job before that? Mr. REISNER. Prior to coming to the Committee for the, Re-Election of the President, I was in the Environmental Protection Agency. Senator GURNEY. For how long? Mr. REISNER. For approximately 3 or 4 months-4 months. I had graduated from school in June, had gone to work for the environmental Protection Agency, and then had been recommended for the job and had gone over and accepted it. Senator GURNEY. EPA was your first job after school? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator GURNEY. What was your pay there? Mr. REISNER. My pay there? Senator GURNEY. Yes. Mr. REISNER. My pay was GS--12 Salary, which was $15,000. Senator GURNEY. And at the Committee To Re-Elect? Mr. REISNER. Identical. The pay was a lateral pay. Senator GURNEY, One or two questions here that, others have raised but I would like a little more detail on. You mentioned that about the meeting of Mr. Magruder With Mitchell In 'March? Mr. REISNER. Yes, sir. Senator GURNEY. And upon his return you were instructed to call Gordon Liddy and tell him the. project was approved? Mr. REISNER. I have testified to that. I have also, I think, indicated that I cannot be certain that it came following that, meeting. but that, testified do remember such a phone call. Senator GURNEY. Did you have any such idea what the project was? Mr. REISNER. No, sir, I did not. in, fact, it led to confusion on the phone call when Mr. Liddy objected to the time limit and I indicated to him testified did not know what he was talking about,. Senator GURNEY. You mentioned some of the meetings here that you noted in your log between Magruder and Mitchell and Dean and Liddy. Did you ever know what those meetings were about? Mr. REISNER. -No, sir, 1 did not.
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