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July 29, 1994 - Part 3
(13:05:37) Mr. MONROE. No, it was not, sir, Senator BOND. Could you find out for us who did conduct that interview? Mr, MONROE. Yes, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, we have a Federal Bureau of Investigation report on the inquiries made of Fletcher Jackson, Assistant U.S. Attorney. In there, be stated that be did not remember exactly what day the search warrant for Mr. Hale's Little Rock office was signed. He knew several people who were aware of it, including the judge, the Judge's secretary, an acting U.S. Attorney, and maybe some other FBI personnel would know about it. Now, to your knowledge, Mr, Monroe, were other individuals interviewed at the U.S. Attorney's Office? If so, who? Mr. MONROE. What I know about that aspect of the case, Senator, was that everyone who bad knowledge of the particular issuance of that search warrant were interviewed to determine whether or not that information got out and our investigation shows that that information was not given out specifically to Mr. Foster. I do not have, Senator, at my disposal right now, the identity of all of those individuals that were interviewed but we'd be obviously glad to supply that for you, sir. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman the only FBI interview report that we have received is one related to Mr. Fletcher Jackson. I would like to make that a part of the record. At this point, I would ask were there other reports on other interviews made of personnel in the U.S, Attorney's Off- ice? Mr. MONROE. I'm not aware of that, sir, Senator BOND. If you have those, we would appreciate receiving those 53 Mr. MONROE. Yes, sir. Senator BOND. I would note also Mr. COLOMBELL. I have traveled to Little Rock in connection with the death investigation of Mr. Foster. I think perhaps it would clarify things if it was noted that the investigative staff here in Washington, bad as our primary concern with regard to this bearing today our investigation in Washington, DC. But in traveling to Little Rock I did have an interest in whether or not there was any leak of that search warrant, if that would have been a factor in Mr. Foster's death. A supervisor down there, the agent supervisor, and I bad occasion to spend some time together and be discussed that he investigated and the agents that are working with him had the responsibility for that-to look into that, and he assured me that they could find no reason to believe that there was information leaked with regard to the search warrant. Senator BOND. Can you say specifically whether be interviewed other members of the U.S. Attorney's Office? Mr. COLOMBELL. No, I cannot. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, I believe we need to have that information because, as the Chairman and Ranking Member will recall, in the information supplied to us, the Independent Counsel's only evidence appears to be this one interview of Fletcher Jackson in which the date was uncertain and in which be further stated that it was possible that someone could have made a telephone call. We requested and the Chairman and the Ranking Member approved a request to conduct telephone depositions with employees of the Little Rock U.S. Attorney's Office. The Department of Justice concurred. Arrangements were made, and the Department of Justice sent a representative to Little Rock.
July 29, 1994 - Part 3
(13:40:35) Mr. MONROE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. The warrant was not, in fact served until the day after Vincent Foster had taken his life; is that accurate? Mr. MONROE. That's accurate. It was served on July 21st. Senator FERRY. So this is speculation; is that correct? Mr. MONROE. That's correct. Senator KERRY. Now let me clarify for my colleagues on thc other side why this issue has come up about what is appropriate or not appropriate today. Now, I can understand why some of them may be expressing some embarrassment about the questions surrounding the death, but I do not think it is fair to suggest that there isn't cause for concern on this side about why we're here. Vincent Foster tragically took his life a year ago, 1 year ago, but as of March of this year, the Minority Leader was suggesting or calling the death an alleged suicide." As of this year. the House Republican Whip was publicly saying there's a lot out there that's weird. As of this year, Senators on this Committee were saying they didn't know where he might have died or where this took place, leaving of the notion out there it might have been somewhere else. As is year, another Senator in this Committee talked about the very mysterious circumstances under which he died. As of this year, a report published by former assistants to Jim Baker and Congressman Kemp reported that the office of Senator Moynihan was putting out the word that Foster committed suicide at a private park in Virginia. Not one Senator went to the floor to contradict this. There was a minor stock market crash. Moynihan put out the word it was a total fabrication, but there isn't any evidence whatsoever of this kind of totally fabricated element turning up in a Republican financial newsletter, which it didn't. In recent days, Jerry Falwell has been describing Mr.. Foster's death as mysterious, asking publicly whether it was a suicide and speculating breathlessly that it was a murder. The Wall Street Journal editorialized 2 days after his death that in the view of the,, newspaper he was "an unlikely suicide." And later The Wall Street' Journal described a report that be was murdered by a drug-deal ing-cabal of drug-dealing officers. That appeared on August 6, 1993. A well-known Republican media consultant who brought us the Willy Horton ads has been raising money money off of Mr. Foster's death by suggesting it wasn't suicide and calling for a new inves- tigation of this "mysterious death." So this is why- Senator DODD. As late as July 13th, the Congressman from Indi- ana has been literally filling the Congressional Record with:.." most obscene accusations regarding this as well. It's not just months ago. Senator KERRY. So when my colleagues say to us, I don't know why my friends on the other side of the aisle are concerned this, this is out there and now is the time to put it to rest. 63 I ask you, based on your 30 years of experience, based on your 25 years of experience, have you learned anything at all as sworn FBI officers that suggest that any of the things I read off there could be true? Mr. Monroe. Mr. MONROE. No, sir. Mr. COLOMBELL. No, sir. Dr. HIRSCH. Senator, I'm not a sworn FBI officer, but I do have an opinion about something you raised, and that concerns the place of Mr. Foster's death. It is my unequivocal, categorical opinion that it was impossible for him to have been killed elsewhere. Senator KERRY. You've done something like 20,000 autopsies, have you not? Dr. HIRSCH. I've lost track, Many thousands. Senator KERRY. I appreciate those opinions and I just think it really goes to underscore the damage the words have-thoughtlessness of this process, and we're not creating this, my friends. These things were said by other people. They're out there as a matter of record, and now is the time to clear it up.
July 29, 1994 - Part 3
(13:10:15) Depositions were scheduled for Tuesday, July 26, 1994, to conduct simple telephone interviews of members of the U.S. Attorney's Office. We had been advised in preparation that one of the witnesses said there was a reporter from The New York Times who said be bad a source in the Little Rock U.S. Attorney's Office. We wanted to inquire whether any of these people might have been contacted or might have had knowledge of that. When we were notified at the last moment-after the court reporter had been sent to the office, after the representative of the Department of Justice bad been sent there--that there was some problem. There was a delay. All of a sudden, the depositions were beyond the scope of the Senate bearings. The depositions were not Allowed to go forward and finally at 3:45 p.m., on Tuesday afternoon, Minority Counsel was informed that the depositions could not be taken. Mr. Chairman, this raises questions as to why the depositions "Were not allowed, after you and the Ranking Member had agreed we should be able to take these depositions by telephone, and the Department of Justice bad concurred and sent a representative to Little Rock and even arranged for a court reporter. I will provide a full account of this incident, because in the investigation of this matter we continue to run into areas where all of a sudden normal investi ative channels are precluded. We're very much concerned as to why these telephone depositions could not go forward. I would 54 urge you, as part of your investigative responsibility, to pursue questions as to what people in the U.S. Attorney's Office might have known and who might they have contacted. I have other questions, but Mr. Chairman, I will submit this interview with Mr. Fletcher Jackson for the record. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, we will make it part of the record. Mr, MONROE. Can I respond to the Senator? While I'm not aware of the problems you've described of the telephone deposition, let me assure you, sir, that we will supply to you the interviews of all the people that were contacted relative to the issuance of that search warrant, sir. Senator BOND. I appreciate that, Mr. Chairman. And my own great concern is-if it was a normal course of interviews, why our interviews scheduled for Tuesday were not permitted to go forward, The CHAIRMAN. Let me examine that question, but in response to the earlier question you've raised as to the assurance you've asked for from these other individuals that there was no leakage of this information Mr. Monroe has offered to nail that down, as I understand it, and so that will be done. Mr. MONROE. That's correct, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. As you sit here today, having reviewed this previous load, your testimony is that you found no evidence, you and Mr. Colombell found no evidence, whatsoever that this information did get out? Mr. MONROE. That's correct. The CHAIRMAN. That's where it stands today and you're going to go ahead and answer those questions that Senator Bond has just posed in that area. Mr. MONROE. That's correct, Senator. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, just to be clear, this interview with Fletcher Jackson is the only interview that has come to Mr. Monroe's attention. Thus, is this the only interview that was submitted to the Independence Counsel's Office in preparation of the report? Mr. MoNROE. No, sir, there are other interviews. I just don't know bow many or who they are, pertaining to this particular matter Senator BOND, To the U.S. Attorney's Office? Mr. MONROE. I'm not sure. Senator BOND. There are other interviews, yes. We have other interviews of Mr. Buck, Mr. Rather, Mr. Lyons, but are there other interviews that you have? Mr. MONROE. I'm not familiar with exactly who was interviewed relative to this issue as to whether there were other people in the U.S. Attorney's Office. But we can make available to you all of the people who were contacted or interviewed regarding this matter, Senator. Senator BOND. Would you have not submitted to us other interviews of the U.S. Attorney's Office if they were in our possession? Mr. MONROE. I guess they should have been, Senator. I'm not aware of that aspect of the investigation.
Fashions
Latest ski fashions for "snow bunnies" are shown and they include jumpsuits, stretch suits, and quilted racing jackets. For going to and from: a calfskin poncho. A quaint lovely mountain lake has but a bit of snow around its' edge. A "snow bunny" gets out of a hotrod station wagon wearing an animal print poncho thinking that she is all the rage. Another bunny sways and poses in a sexy one-piece little number while in front of a burning fireplace. Two bunnies admire each other's sharp threads. Walking through a snow bank, another bunny moves around in a swank ski coat, but oh-no, her hair is getting all a mess from a brisk mountain wind, and she must touch it here and there to make sure everything is just right.
New Boeing 737 Jetliner
The latest thing in twin-jet airliners, the Boeing 737. It's designed for short shuttle hops up to 13 hundred miles, carries 101 passengers, and cruises at a speed of 580 miles an hour. TLS Boeing 737 parked on tarmac. Panning LS crowd gathered on ground & roof for event. Pilot talking with reporters on tarmac. Wide shot of Jet engine and exhaust fumes. Panning TLS Boeing 737 taking off. Air to air shots of 737 in flight, flying over clouds.
Spring In The Himalayas
With strange and exotic dancing and picnicking, spring is celebrated in the Himalayan Mountain nation of Bhutan, near the Tibetan border. Tibet refugees, people from neighboring Sikkim and Bhutanese make it a gala and festive welcome, 12 thousand feet above sea level. LS Large crowd gathered for dance ceremony. Male dancers dancing. Bhutanese people sitting beside courtyard dance, eating & drinking. Dancer wearing strange "smiling" mask swishing head back & forth while looking at cam.
Papal Baptism
A rare Papal ceremony is seen in Rome's Basilica of Saint John Lateran as Pope Paul, the Sixth, baptizes two children. It's a traditional pastoral duty and the Pontiff explained its renewal by urging a new impulse to religious life in the city. High angle TLS Pope Paul VI (Giovanni Battista Montini) entering baptismal pit. Panning CU two sleeping infants. Pope Paul VI baptizing children in holy water. Pope Paul VI walking street, blessing congregation while wearing papal hat and holding gold crucifix staff.
July 29, 1994 - Part 3
(13:15:07) Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, that's my problem. 55 Mr. COLOMBELL. Senator, I'm sorry we don't have the information you wanted. We met with the staff of the Committee yesterday to discuss possible areas and the focus of this hearing. We did not think that was going to be one of the areas, Had we known so, we could have possibly made an effort to have that information for you, but we will have that information for you, I will assure. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, I'd say that's fair because we have just found out who these gentlemen are. I did not have the information, until you told us, as to what Mr. Monroe's responsibilities were. Obviously we have more work to do. The CHAIRMAN. I think the witnesses' answers are responsive and they have said that they'll go back and provide that information. If they bad known about it before right now they would have had it prepared for you now, so I think we have to leave it at that, Senator BOND. One final thing. Our staff asked that you bring all the information that you had on this matter. You did not withbold anything in your possession that relates to this inquiry; is that fair? Mr. MONROE. Absolutely not, Senator. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, could I make an inquiry? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Senator SARBANES. Does the Committee have other FBI reports of interviews that were done in Little Rock with respect to this matter? Senator BOND. Yes. Brantley Buck was interviewed in Little Rock. The CHAIRmAN. Is there anyone on this side who seeks recognition? Senator Dodd. Senator DODD. Dr. Hirsch, you have been a pathologist since 1969; is that correct? Dr. HIRSCH. Longer than that. I've been a full-time career forensic pathologist since 1969. Senator DODD. It's fair to say you've been involved in literally hundreds of cases involving homicides? Dr. HIRSCH. Thousands. Senator DODD. Thousands. And Mr. Monroe and Mr. Colombell, bow long have you been with the agency, the Bureau? Mr. MONROE. I've been with the Bureau about 29 years. Mr. COLOMBELL. I've been an agent 30 years. Senator DODD. Is it fair to assume you've been involved in hundreds if not thousands, of investigations? Mr. MONROE. Mr. Colombell more than myself, but those rough figures are probably in the ballpark, sir. Senator DODD. It's your conclusion, as has been stated, that Mr. Foster committed suicide. There's no doubt in any of your minds ,!about that? Mr. MONROE. No doubt. Mr. COLOMBELL. No doubt at all. Senator DODD. While I understand there may be-and I presume .,this is true in any investigation-things that could have been done a bit better with 20/20 hindsight, but in your professional capacity 56 I want to use the word "significant"---were there any "signifi- cant" irregularities in the Park Service Police's investigation? Mr. MONROE,. Your question, Senator, bad to do with the Park Police and the response that I have to that is we do not know of any significant irregularities. Senator DODD. Mr. Colombell? Mr. COLOMBELL. Senator, I do not know of any. Senator DODD. Dr. Hirsch, in your examination of the Park Service's handling of this matter, did you encounter any significant irregularities in how they conducted their work? Dr. HIRSCH. The objective evidence, photographic evidence, principally provided to me, which is the work product of the Park Police, was adequate to give me an opportunity to form an independ. ent opinion and make an independent evaluation about the observations at the scene of Mr. Foster's death. From that standpoint, their work was adequate. Could it have been better? Of course. My work can be better, too, but the objective documentation, which is the important thing to me, I just don't have to take somebody else's word for it is there and it unequivocally establishes very important features about the investigation of Mr. Foster's death. Senator DODD. You said, Mr. Monroe, in your testimony that you questioned approximately 125 people including friends, family, and White House colleagues and there was documentary photographic evidence as well as the autopsy report; analyzed blood, DNA, fin. gerprints, handwriting tests were performed, and a forensic pathology panel was convened. The second question I have, has to do with whether or not, in your views, those of you who looked at this, was there any correlation between Mr. Foster's tragic suicide and Whitewater?
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Kona church (oldest Protestant)
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'69 & '70 combined
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