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Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 6, 1973
[00.07.26] Senator GURNEY. This occurred in January 1973?' Mr. SLOAN. I believe so, Senator. I am just not, sure.. Senator GURNEY. Where did the meeting occur? Mr. SLOAN. In Mr. Haldeman's office,. Senator GURNEY. Did you seek the audience with him? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir; I did. Senator GURNEY. How long did it last? Mr. SLOAN. About 45 minutes. Senator GURNEY. And would you be a little more specific about what you discussed in the meeting? Mr. SLOAN. It was a very friendly meeting. We discussed my future. I think we discussed Mr. Magruder. I think I may have, whether by name, I mentioned how strongly I felt about certain individuals in terms of what they had done that I thought was wrong. I told him that I thought positive action should have been taken away back when. I was seeking his counsel a little bit in terms of employment as well. I told him that I fully understood why, under the umbrella of what had happened in Watergate, it would be inappropriate of me in any case, regardless of your insistence, to seek employment in Government. He was just very friendly and cooperative and agreed with that analysis. He said if I ever wanted to come back in Government years from now, he would be glad to recommend that. It was that kind of a conference. Senator GURNEY. And your conversations about the President--I was quite clear about that. You professed faith in him. Is that what you generally said? Mr. SLOAN. Yes, sir. Looking at this whole problem in a time perspective, I felt that a long decision had been made, in a way, what to do about this matter. At that point in time, I think the trial had already been and it looked as if that was the end of the line, that was as far as it went. It looked as if, in a way, aside from the convicted individuals, that essentially, in a way, I was the only big loser on this thing. I think it had been interpreted at the White House, by people I considered friends over a long period of time, that there was something I had done that was improper. I think I just wanted to express my side of the story to someone who I felt could make a difference before others. Senator GURNEY. Did Mr. Haldeman mention anything at all in that conference about his involvement in Watergate or anybody's involvement in Watergate? Mr. SLOAN. He indicated to me that he had absolutely no involvement in Watergate. He knew about the Segretti matter and indicated, you know, when the, full story was told, that would be understand understandable. We did not go into any great, depth about this. He admitted to me that he felt that some mistakes had been made in the handling of the Watergate matter. Senator GURNEY. Was there any mention of the President other than the one you have referred to by yourself? Mr. SLOAN. I am not sure I even mentioned the President's name, I think it was just a feeling that, being close, to the President, I felt a lot of information-- because of the people involved, I was getting blacklisted, essentially, Senator GURNEY. What did he say about Mr. Segretti? Did he mention when he had learned about Segretti? Mr. SLOAN. It was a, passing reeference in response to my explaining to him why I had done certain things. He just said, well, the Segretti thing, when it comes out, will be understandable--he probably says to the American people, He said, I personally know the story on that; that will be defensible. He said, the Watergate, I do not know about. He said, I have no knowledge. Senator GURNEY. Have you had ad any conversations with Mr. Ehrlichman other than the one you have told about? Mr. SLOAN. No, sir. Senator GURNEY, With Mr. Chapin other than the one you have told us about? Mr. SLOAN. I attempted once, after he joined United Airlines, to have lunch with him when he was leaving town, but he was unable to arrange it. Senator GURNEY. Do you know anything at all about the coverup of Watergate? Mr. SLOAN. Only what I have read in the newspapers, Senator. Senator GURNEY. You do not know an -thing of your own personal knowledge? Mr. SLOAN. I would say the only comment I have even heard that would be relevant was a comment by Secretary Stans to me when we were in a legal conference sometime in, I guess it would be April of this year, where we were asked by the attorneys--we were addressing ourselves to certain litigation in certain civil matters--to leave the room for a while and we were chatting informally. I think this afterward came out in the press. He said, well, I think we know now where the $350,000 went, reeferring to the subsequent transfers, as I understand it from news reports, of that money to Mr. LaRue. Senator GURNEY. You have mentioned the advice from Mr. Magruder about perjury and also the fifth amendment advice from Mr. Dean. Did anybody else try to give you any advice on what to say to the grand jury or this committee or anyone else about Watergate? Mr. SLOAN. I do not believe so, Senator. I think that covers it. Senator GURNEY. There was one mention in one report about the GAO investigation and their having difficulty in locating you. Could You tell us about that, their investigation, you know, in July and August of the funds of the Committee To Re-Elect? Mr. SLOAN. Senator, with regard to the General Accounting Office, I believe we have responded to every request they have ever made, either in writing, in written interrogatories. I had been traveling at times. It evidently has not been timely from their standpoint, but we, "have made every effort to be cooperative. [00.13.30]
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