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Marine Mammals - Harbor Seal
Harbor seal slaps water to startle fish to move ON PART ONE.
Marine Mammals - Sea Otter
05:09:39 Sea otters sleep in kelp bed 05:11:25 Male sea otter sleeping in kelp bed, grooms himself c.u. Roll 01:01:02 Male sea otter grooms and rolls, sea otter sleeping 01:03:37 Male sea otter grooms himself - see his webbed feet and flat tail ON PART ONE
Marine Mammals - Harbor Seal
Harbor seal hind flippers and tail ON PART TWO.
Marine Mammals - Sea Otter
01:33:03 Sea otter pounds food on rock on chest 01:33:31 Male sea otter swims fast on his stomach 01:33:43 Male and female sea otter courtship 01:36:57 Sea otter pounds food on rock on his chest 01:39:58 Male sea otter grooms c.u. 01:41:25 Female sea otter pounds food on rock on chest c.u. 01:42:11 Sea otter courtship, copulation, see penis 01:43:37 Female sea otter swims fast on her stomach 01:44:00 Sea otters courtship 01:44:30 Male sea otter swims fast on his stomach and dives 01:46:47 Male sea otter takes big crab from female and eats ON PART TWO.
August 1, 1994 - Part 8
(21:55:48) Ms. HANSON. If I could, on March 1, 1994, a call came in from John Podesta saying there was a concern about responses to Senator Bond's questions. As I've testified, we found the two Senator Bond questions and transcribed them off the tape. I went back to Mr. Altman's office and he was on the phone with Mr. Podesta and said-and he said, "I understand that there was a meeting at the White House on-I understand that you talked with Bernie Nussbaum about this," and I said, "Yes. I talked with him by phone." That was my initial recollection. "I talked with him by phone , " and be said-as he continued his conversation with John Podesta, be said, "Mr. Nussbaum remembers that it was a stayback after the Waco prebrief , " and I said, "That's right. Now that I remember that now that I've beard that I now remember that it wasn't a telephone conversation that I had with him," which was my initial recollection, It was, in fact, a stayback back after the Waco prebrief, So there we are. We have the two Senator Bond questions. They need to be addressed so I take a laptop computer home and, late at night, I start trying to recall, refresh my recollection as to what actually had happened 4 months earlier in specifics that I hadn't thought about since then. Senator FERRY. Well Ms. HANSON. There were certain things I remembered, as you look through here. There are certain things I remembered. There are other things I did not recall correctly. As I went through the process, over the course of the next several days, of trying to recall 175 what happened, I recall, as I focused on it specifically-this was my first cut. This was done in the middle of the night on March 1-2, 1994, as I was trying to remember what happened. But as I thought about it over the course of the next several days, it occurred to me, and I remember that I, in fact, did have a conversation about this with Mr. Altman. That is why I went to the White House. In fact, as I say, Mr. Nussbaum has testified that in my initial conversation with him, I told him which I don't recall, that Mr. Nussbaum-that I understood Mr. Altman had given him information about this, which I otherwise wouldn't have known if I hadn't spoken with Mr. Altman. Senator KERRY. I hear what you're saying, as do my colleagues, gin but I have to tell you I find it very ha to take at face value be-cause you are a lawyer. You are Counsel to the Treasury. It is ex-traordinary to me that Mr. Altman's answer was they were not no-tified by the RTC, to the best of my knowledge: Senator BOND: Nobody in your agency, to your knowledge, advised the White House? Mr. ALTMAN: Not to my knowledge. At that time, that wasn't true. You knew that wasn't true. Ms. HANSON. I didn't know that wasn't true. That was my recollection at the time I Senator KERRY. Your recollection at the time was, but you later learned that wasn't true. Ms. HANSON. I recalled, as I continued to think about these events over the course of the next several days, that, in fact, I had had a conversation with Mr. Altman. I just didn't recall it at the time that I first started trying to refresh my recollection on this issue. Senator KERRY. I understand. Ms. HANSON. I may, sir, be the General Counsel of the Treasury. I'm also human, and I don't recall everything with perfect recollection. Senator KERRY. Mr. Chairman, my time is up. I just want to say to you, I'm also human, we're all very sympathetic to you. I'm truly not trying to pick on you. I don't think we re trying to do that, but we have to test the reasonable standard, here, for a lawyer and counsel in an important position. We get a letter, one day after this, in which you have these denials, a letter from Mr. Altman, which you helped draft, and that letter says to us, in three separate paragraphs, things that are inaccurate. The letter never mentions the recusal that you knew, sitting there, was incorrect, and you said, "We couldn't change it then." Here was your opportunity to change it. In that letter, there was not only no change, but there were representations that fell more in line with this which we now know to be inaccurate.
Lem Bailey Misc. UN Roll 1001
Very good shots of life on a dude ranch -- with the emphasis on dude, or duds. Two women and two men enter scene, walk by adobe building, all wearing cowboy hats and chaps, the women in prototypical 1950s Western garb. They stand by an open campfire with paper plates, getting ready to eat, and enter other poses, including a man on a horse in front of a sign: "Camelback Inn." WS shows long tables outside, filled with people eating 06:42:04 MS people (most in cowboy clothes) clapping along, then some bodacious square dancing! 06:42:40 man on horseback rides up to meet a great old Woody station wagon in the middle of a desert scene
August 1, 1994 - Part 8
(22:00:50) Ms. HANSON. First of all, I disagree with that characterization Senator KERRY. Let me read the letter of March 2, 1994, to you, Dear Senator Riegle, I testified before your Committee, last Thursday, in connection with the semiannual oversight hearings on the RTC. There was a discussion, as you remember, of a meeting which I -had with representatives of the White House. As I indicated, no nonpublic information was provided to that meeting on any aspect of Madison Guaranty. That's not accurate. The next paragraph Ms. HANsON. Sir. 176 Senator KERRY. Senator Bond Ms. HANSON. Could I answer that? If you're going to tell there are inaccuracies in this letter, then, I think I should have the opportunity to give an explanation. The CHAIRMAN. You should. Here's the problem we're running into. You've been on the stand 5 hours now. It's 10 p.m. There are questions Senator KERRY. I don't want to raise a question. I think it's un- fair to her, the Administration, or anybody to raise a question -not answered. I really don't want to do that. I also don't want to take too long- Senator DAMATO. In fairness to the witness The CHAIRMAN. Senator Kerry, that letter's there, You've read part of it. Why don't you give your response and, then, I want to make a recommendation as to bow I think we might try to conclude this evening. Senator KERRY. Let me leave the final part of this. The last paragraph reads: But I have learned, today, of two conversations which dictate place between Treasury staff and White House personnel in this matter. Again, that is not correct. I think you knew at the time it wasn't correct., because your own testimony has indicated that you had the prior conversations and wrote the memo to Mr. Altman himself. Ms. HANSON. Sir, if I might, please--- Senator KERRY. Absolutely. That's exactly what we want. Ms. HANSON. I have testified, under oath, now numerous times on this matter. I'm a lawyer. I have a clear recollection of having spoken with Mr. Altman. I did not recall it at the time I did these questions. At the time the letter, the March 2, 1994, letter, was sent, and I read it, I didn't draft it, but I read it, Mr. Altman's recollection, that he bad just learned about them, was consistent with mine. I later learned-I later recalled that I had spoken with him about it. I didn't recall it at the time the letter was written. As I said that's part of the difficulty in trying to do things in a piecemeal fashion. I also could, sir, in response to your statement that there was a statement in the first paragraph of the letter that was wrong, that says no nonpublic information was furnished Senator KERRY, At that time, it was not public. Ms. HANSON. I understood that sentence, as I read it, to relate to the substantive underlying civil investigation of the Madison civil matter. That's what I understood it to say. That was correct, because there was no substantive information on the underlying Madison civil investigation. Senator KERRY. We're going back. I don't want to abuse this process. Mr. Chairman, let me just say, I thank you. I think it's very important to hammer away at this, to try to clarify it, because this is central to all of our concerns, and I want to make sure you have adequate opportunity to address it. The CHAIRMAN. It's a very important predicate to tomorrow's witnesses. I mean, I think that's been made clear on both sides. Let me just say to my colleagues, I'd like to see if we can't arrive at an understanding as to how we can finish ton' lit. The witness has been there a long time, and I think it's tough to be there when 177 you're facing off against a large number of people. That's the nature of things. You've made your points and you've held up very well, which is to your credit. I'd like to see if we can't finish up no longer than a half hour from now. I don't know that it should take that long. I don't want to be arbitrary. Senator DAmato has asked to next. I've talked to Senator Bennett.
August 1, 1994 - Part 8
(22:05:13) Senator GRAMM. Mr. Chairman, I don't want to be the bad guy, go ahead. Senator BOND. Mr. Chairman, my name has been mentioned in this, and I have yet to have an opportunity to ask this witness a question tonight The CHAiRmAN. You should have that opportunity. Senator Bo". -and I would like to explore several areas. Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to have 7 minutes, 5 minutes. Senator GRAMM. Mr. Chairman, again, I think everything these hearings are about really boils down to the veracity of, to some extent, this letter on March 2, 1994. There are just so many things that we've got to go back to, and ask questions about, or else it's not fair to everybody whom we're going to talk to tomorrow. The CHAIRMAN. Then, I think my thought on that would be, we're scheduled with the witnesses tomorrow, and we should stay and finish. I guess I would just ask everybody to try to make allowances of the time Senator SARBANES. Do you have any idea of how much timeSenator Bennett said 5 minutes, and Senator Bond? Senator BoND. Twenty minutes, at least. Senator SARBANES. Senator Domenici. Senator DOMENICI. I reserve 5 minutes. Senator D'AMATO. I'm going to need 15 to 20 minutes. Senator GRAMM. It depends on how long the answers are, but I think I can do mine, say, in 20, 25 minutes. The CHAIRMAN. And on this side, Senator Boxer has asked for 7 minutes. Senator MosELEY-BRAuN. Five minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Five minutes for Senator Moseley-Braun. I believe I've asked my questions, and I think we've got a hearing record here Senator SARBANES. I would only have questions if they were prompted by other questions that might be asked. I do think there's a need to try to draw this hearing to a close. This witness has been before us, and I think that some of the questioning has become repetitious, not all of it but some of it. The CHAIRMAN. Not surprisingly, Senators have had to come and go so, we've covered some of these issues 2 or 3 times. I do think it's important that Senator Bond-believe me, you've been mentioned a number of times when you were not here, because we've gone over and over the questions you posed-but I think you certainly need to have an opportunity to ask those questions and get the answers. Senator DAmato, you're controlling the time Senator DAmATo. I'm going to try to move as quickly as I can, in the interest of time, on behalf of the witness. There are no trick 178 questions here. This has all come from statements you've made so, it's basically just going over material. On February 1, 1994, your appointment record shows, and you've testified, at 10 a.m. you had a meeting. Mr. Levy, Mr. Newman, and Mr. Altman were there, maybe some other people, and that was followed up by a meeting with Secretary Bentsen. Could you describe what took place at that first meeting and the second meet- ing? III try to help. You testified that Secretary Alt an stated he the In would recuse himself and then you went into second meeting. Does that help you? Ms. HANSON. Yes, sir. Senator DAMATO. I am trying to be helpful. Ms. HANSON. Thank you. I appreciate that. What I recall of the meeting at 10 a.m., there was a meeting in Mr. Altman's office. Mr. Newman Frank Newman, was there. Mr. Levy-and there was a discussion of recusal. What I recall of the conversation was a discussion of what a CEO, in a private corporation, would do if faced with a similar situation where there was a claim, or a possible claim, against a friend of the CEO and how it would be handled. There was a discussion. Mr. Newman, I recall, said that it would go to a special committee or the board. There was a discussion as to whether it would come back to the CEO, if the CEO had the opportunity to bear about it before Senator DAMATO. Was the subject, that Mr. Altman was going to recuse himself, discussed? Ms. HANSON. I don't recall that statement being made in that meeting or bow the meeting ended. Senator DAMATO. You came to the second meeting, and you were rather specific there, at 12:30 p.m. with the Secretary, and let me read what you said. Do you recall what you said? Ms. HANSON. It was 12:45 p.m., if I recall, and this is a meeting with the Secretary, Mr. Altman, and me? Senator DAmATO. Yes. Ms. HANsON. I believe, in my testimony, I testified that there was a discussion on the statute of limitations issue. Mr. Altman said that he had decided be would recuse himself, that I had recommended be do so, and that be thought there would be a great deal of political clamor and criticism as to whether or not he could be impartial. The Secretary asked who would decide --- who would be the decisionmakers and asked a little bit about Ellen Kulka and Jack Ryan. He told Mr. Altman that it sounded like the right decision.
Africa II - White Bearded Wildebeest
Whitebearded wildebeest herding harem
Africa II - Zebra
Zebra tail patterns
Africa II - Masai Giraffe
04:03:00 3 day old masai giraffe - note the umbilical cord 04:07:40 Male and female masai giraffe 04:12:12 Head of masai giraffe
Africa II - Impala
04:12:37 Impala buck chases a doe 04:15:14 Impala doe herd
Africa II - Topi
Topi
August 1, 1994 - Part 8
(22:10:37) Senator DAMATO. The Secretary told him that? Ms. HANSON. That's my recollection, sir. Then Mr Altman said he wanted to go to the White House to apprise the White House officials of his decision on recusal before they learned of it from someone else. I said I would along. Senator DAMATO. You told him you thought if he went, you should go with him? Ms. HANSON. That's right, sir, Senator D'AMATO. Fine. At the February 2, 1994, meeting at the White House, do you recall what happened? Ms. HANSON. I think, in my written testimony, I testified to the extent of my recollection of that meeting already, sir. 179 Senator DAMATO. Do you want to go over that? Ms. HANSON. Do you want me to do it again? Senator DAMATO, Yes, because you didn't testify to it here, I'd appreciate it, if you gave a deposition-Altman first reads down the talking points. You had prepared talking points. Ms. HANSON. That's right. I had prepared talking points and Senator DAMATO. What about Mr. Altman and the subject of recusal? Ms. HANSON. Do you want me to go through this meeting?. Senator DAMATO. Yes. I want to Ms. HANSON, I prepared the talking points. I discussed them with Mr. Altman before we went over, and pointed out the last talking point. We arrived. Mr. Altman went through the talking points. I I've previously testified as to who attended the meeting. Mr. Altman went through the talking points, all the way to the final talking point. Senator DAMATO. Is this a fair thing-again, in the interest of time, did Mr. Altman report that he was going to recuse himself at this meeting? Ms. HANsON. It's my recollection that Mr. Altman read the last talking point. Senator DAMATO. I'm going through your-Did you indicate that you had recommended the recusal? Ms. HANSON. He indicated that I recommended the recusal, and I added that the Secretary agreed. Senator DAMATO. OK That's good. Did Mr. Nussbaum inquire, if Mr. Altman recuses himself, who would take over? That's the meeting when Mr. Altman-or Mr. Nussbaum may have been somewhat agitated in the discussion about Ms. Kulka. Ms. HANSON. Yes. Senator DAMATO. Mr. Nussbaum complains about Ms. Kulka being tough? I'm summarizing. Ms. HANSON. He said that he had a prior experience with her when he was in private practice. Senator DAMATO. Mr. Nussbaum says that, even if Mr. Altman is not legally required to recuse himself, his continued involvement in the process would impose ".discipline on the process and lead to a fairer result." Ms. HANSON. What are you reading from? Senator DAmATo. I'm reading from your deposition, I'm trying to be helpful. Do you recall that? Ms. HANsON. Would you read that again, please? Senator DAMATO. What did Mr. Nussbaum say about Ms. Kulka? Do you want to recall that? What else did he say? Ms. HANSON. Mr. Nussbaum said that he wasn't saying she was a bad lawyer, but that she was tough. He asked Mr. Altman why he had to recuse himself, since no one appeared to think that it was legally or ethically required. He said that I had recommended it, and I said the Secretary had agreed. Senator DAMATO. Did you understand that Mr. Nussbaum was displeased with the prospect that Ms. Kulka would be the decisionmaker if Mr. Altman recused himself? Ms. HANSON. I wouldn't characterize it as displeased. I have said that Mr. Nussbaum was agitated. 180 Senator DAMATO. Le me read, then, from our deposition. When you spoke to Mr. Eggleston said, I "I recall Mr. Eggleston stated you said, Bernie must have gone ballistic, and I said , yes, he laughed and laughed and that's all I recall." I mean, it's obvious, from your previous depositions, that Mr. Nussbaum was not happy with this. Is that true? Ms. HANSON. That was Senator DAMATO. Did you tell him to reconsider it? Ms. HANSON. -from a different conversation. I don't recall that he asked him to reconsider. I think he presented his views, and Mr. Altman said he would think about them overnight. Senator D'AMATo. On February 3 or 4, 1994, did you receive a call from the White House inquiring how Ms. Kulka was hired?
Canadian Rockies / Men/truck on glacier/boats
Mt. Lakes and Indian village
Canadian Indians - Totem pole
Continental Divide
Canada
Flying Tiger Plane - New ??
Vancouver - capital Estimated Late 1948/Early 1949
Montreal
Preview Cassette 220858 Montreal. Includes a statue in a square. Pan up to impressive looking building
Canada - Ottawa? Quebec?
Buildings / Mounties / Canada