Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 30, 1974
Impeachment Hearings: House Judiciary Committee, July 30, 1974
[00.42.05] Mr. RANGEL. Reserving the right to object- Mr. SARBANES. I will take the lesser time, 3 1/2 minutes. Mr. LATTA. Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Latta. Mr. LATTA. Reserving the right to object, and I shall not object, I will Just take the time, however, to point out that earlier, even though I had my hand up on another matter, the Chair failed to write my name down and denied me my 4 minutes and 35 seconds, or something like that, and the Chair was very charitable and he gave me 1 minute, but I shall be much more charitable and I shall not object and you shall have all of your time. Mr. SARBANES. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. RANGEL. I reserve the right, to object. I -would just like to inquire as to whenever my distinguished colleague makes up his mind as to what side he is going to speak on this issue as to what order his name will be listed as being recognized. The CHAIRMAN. There is no--no time is left. The gentleman has the gentleman from -Utah had been the last speaker in support, and actually all time had expired. Mr. RANGEL. I hate to find myself in the position as my distinguished Colleague, Mr. Latta, but having heard the distinguished chairman mention my name as one that had been on the list, I was hoping that you had not forgotten. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair wishes to state that the names of all of those who had been seeking recognition were all read. Mr. RANGEL. I am certain, Mr. Chairman, that if the stenographer were to review the notes that she has taken, that my name would be recorded among those that wanted to speak. In any event, I would request unanimous consent to speak briefly on this subject. Mr. HUNGATE. Would the gentleman from Ohio perhaps yield his 4 minutes and 35 seconds? Mr. KASTENMEIER. Chairman, reserving the right to object, and I do so because we may have open-ended this thing, if I understand it, Mr. Sarbanes is seeking----- Mr. SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, withdraw the request. Mr. RANGEL. Mr. Chairman, you had mentioned my name as being On the list. The CHAIRMAN. Well, the Chair wishes to state that the, list was submitted to the Chair of those people and- Mr. BROOKS. Mr. Chairman? The, CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? Mr. LATTA. Mr. Chairman? Mr. BROOKS. Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous consent that Sarbanes and Mr. Rangel both be. given 3 minutes, and let's then vote on this and not argue about whether or not their names were down. They both want to speak. I would be delighted to hear them. It wont take much longer, and we call then go On and vote. We will spend more time arguing about it. Then let them speak. Mr. FROEHLICH. Mr. Chairman. reserving the right to object-- Mr. SMITH. I request that Mr. Rangel be allowed to have, up to 4 minutes, or whatever the time IS. Mr. FROEHLICH. Mr. Chairman? Mr. Chairman, reserving the right to object. The CHAIRMAN. 'Mr. Froehlich. Mr. FROEHLICH. I know this time my colleagues, Mr. Maraziti and Mr. Moorhead would also like to speak, and if we are going to give that right to the two gentlemen over there, I ask unanimous Consent that they be included for the same amount Of time. The CHAIRMAN. Well, the Chair would like to state that the Chair erred in not, recognizing the gentleman from New York, and the Chair does want to state that he did know that prior to the recognition of those members that the member from New York, Mr. Rangel, had indicated that be -would be one of those -who wanted to speak on the article if it -were proposed. And I do have his name, but I did not have his name at the time, and I would wish maybe that the members might recognize that he could do that, and out of consideration for that fact, the Chair will state that it erred and that the Chair asks unanimous consent, that the gentleman from New York be given that 4 minutes. Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. Chairman, reserving the right to Object, I Will simply suggest that under a similar circumstance under another article, Mr. Latta, was granted I minute, so I think if Mr. Rangel is granted 1 minute that ought to take care of it in the, same way. Mr. RANGEL. I don't think--- The CHAIRMAN. Maybe -we -will not wrangle over the 1 minute. Mr. RANGEL. Thank you. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, it is so ordered. Mr. RANGEL And I thank my very generous colleagues on this committee. And I was not a Mr. Truman and Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Johnson -were here, and they are not here, now, to set the record straight, All I am saying that Americans do not ask too much from their country, and when there is a problem, when our -Nation's safety is at stake, military people go forward, American men go forward and they defend our country. The only thing between war and people is the United States Congress. I refuse to believe that you have, got to change the rules of the game and say that this President, or any other President, can meet with a handful of Congressmen and thereby send American boys to fight a war in some Country that they did not even know existed. Perhaps there was no argument made, against Mr. Truman, but on that, troop ship that I was on in June of 1949, had the argument been raised on the question of impeachment, I am certain there. would have been a lot of support for it, I yield back the. balance of my time. [00.47.58]