August 4, 1994 - Part 10
August 4, 1994 - Part 10
(21:10:35) Senator MACK. Now, it's going to take a minute for me to go through these. This is something I've had to learn. You all have lived it, be somewhat patient with me as I attempt to get through this. September the 29th, there was a meeting- September 29th I guess a meeting between Ms. Hanson and Mr. Nussbaum. That is to give some information to Mr. Nussbaum about the 9 referrals. Mr. Nussbaum calls Mr. Sloan into that meeting and there is a continuation of a discussion about the referrals. As I understand it, Mr. Nussbaum then says to Mr. Sloan, that he should get in touch with you. Let me run through this and then I'll give you-believe me, you'll have an opportunity to respond. Mr. Sloan does contact you and he believes that that contact is either the same day or it could have been the day after. He then refers or provides you with the information about what had been 447 passed on to him by Ms. Hanson with respect to the referrals. And we have Mr. Sloan's notes of the conversation, of his conversation with Ms. Hanson about the referrals, Now I understand that there also was confusion over a memorandum. A memorandum that I think was dated October 7th, and that memorandum we believe basically underscores that you had in fact met with Mr. Eggleston and Mr. Sloan around the 29th of September. And my whole point in running through that, is that I'm under the impression that as of that October 1st or September 30th, that you've got information about the referrals. Now, we also know that you had made some notes of a conversation and during the deposition you had indicated, when you were reminded by this October 7th memorandum, that, yes, these notes corresponded to that meeting that took place either on the 30th or on the Ist. Now, also in the deposition, to be clear about it, I think you began to back away from that, saying that that was that first conversation. Then you got this phone call from Mr. Lyons when you were with the President on October 4th and I think you also testified that you men had a conversation with the President on that trip, October 4th or 5th. And I believe also that your testimony is something to the effect that, maybe if it hadn't been for Mr. Lyons calling so recently, maybe you wouldn't even have raised it with the President, but you in fact did mention the referrals to the President, on that trip. Now is that a pretty good Mr. LINDSEY. Close, but not quite. Let me go back. I think I testified in my deposition that I remembered having a short conversation with Cliff Sloan in which he informed me that there were referrals, that they expected or that there were leaks and that the Clintons were mentioned but not as targets or subjects. That is the only conversation I remember prior to my conversation with President Clinton. There are notes that Mr. Sloan has of a September 30 conversation he had with Jean Hanson, There are also notes of a October 7th conversation that Cliff Sloan had with Jean Hanson. There are notes that I have which are undated which say "conversation with Neil/Cliff." If you compare my one note with his two notes, it is apparent to me, and I believe to Mr. Sloan, (21:15:20)(tape #10095 ends)