(12:10:20) As was pointed out in that memorandum, Mr. Nussbaum writes that. It is imperative that there be public confidence in the effective and impartial administration of the laws. Political figures and others may seek White House intervention in pending criminal and civil matters, but it undermines the administration of justice if the White House even appears to be interfering in such cases. I think one of the problems, if there is a personal Secretary BENTSEN. Well I share that kind of advice. Senator ROTH. I do, too, Mr. Secretary. Do I have time for one more question? The CHAIRMAN. Well if it goes into a new area, I think we probably ought to stay within the time limits. If it is a very brief followon to this, that is a little different. Senator ROTH. Well it really is a follow-up on this question. The CHAIRMAN. Can you do it in a minute or so? Senator ROTH. I would hope so. Mr, Secretary The CHAIRMAN [continuing]. Because I do not want to trespass on the time of others. Senator ROTH. Mr. Secretary, is it your position, or would it be your position that the rules of confidentiality applying to sensitive, nonpublic matters such as criminal referrals, should be waived or not waived in respect to the White House? In other words, you did speak of a need of high White House officials, or Administration officials being able to discuss matters. Secretary BENTSEN. Under certain conditions. Senator ROTH. Under certain conditions. Secretary BENTSEN. And I don't think there are clear enough guidelines on that. That is something I think that should be pursued. 43 As I said earlier, I have! sent word to the Attorney General's department that I want their counsel on it. Senator ROTH. My time is up, but I may have further questions. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Boxer. OPENING COMMENTS OF SENATOR BOXER Senator BOXER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I just want to say, putting aside this matter for just a moment, congratulations on the job you are doing for our economy. There is another good report today, Secretary BENTSEN. Thank you. Senator BOXER. I am really encouraged by what has happened since this Administration took over in terms of what is happening to real people in their lives. Secretary BENTSEN. Thank you, very much, Senator. I must say, I am very pleased with the way the economy was going. If I could write down the numbers arid have my choice, I don't think I could do much better. Senator BOXER. You are right. That is very good news for us. Mr. Secretary, I want to first say that I have been around here only a couple of years, and then in the House for 10 years. I don't know anyone who is more respected by the Members of this Body, and this is a tough place. You know, you never want to be the first one to leave the room. [Laughter] Secretary BENTSEN. I know. Senator BOXER. But I can tell you that Secretary BENTSEN. Senator, you are generous.