August 1, 1994 - Part 6
August 1, 1994 - Part 6
(18:10:44) Ms. HANSON. Yes. Senator SHELBY. But sometimes, in the heat of an oversight hearing or courtroom or so forth, you can't always anticipate the question because those questions are spontaneous. Is that correct? Ms. HANSON. That's correct. Senator SHELBY. If be had a stock answer, it might not have been the proper answer to a spontaneous question? Ms. HANSON. That's correct and, in fact, that is what happened here. Senator SHELBY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Counsel just handed you the, preparation sheet that she's making reference to in this situation. You'll notice that last point is one of the contentious points in the sense that that had been reviewed and was a part of the formal written preparation.- This is what, really, she's making reference to right now. I thought, as she said that, you ought to have the document in front of you. Senator SHELBY. Sure, Mr. Chairman, I think what you were getting into is what I alluded to. I think it's very important that people answer accordingly and, if they've got information, bring it out then and not later. Right? The CHAIRMAN. Senator Mack. Senator MACK. Thank you, Mr. CHAIRMAN. Ms. Hanson, I want to go back to the September 30, 1993, memo, that you sent to Mr. Altman, where you have asked Bill Roelle "to keep me informed. Is there anything else you thin we should you, be doing?" Ms. HANSON. I gave my copy back. I'm sorry. Senator MACK. Can someone provide her with that memo again? Ms. Hanson, when you wrote, "is there anything else you think we should be doing?" is that in that memorandum? Ms. HANSON. Yes, it is. Yes, it is, sir. Senator MACK, Is the "we" you referred to you and Mr. Altman? Ms. HANsON. As I say, I don't have an independent recollection of preparing this memorandum, but I would interpret that to mean es, whether there was anything that we, Mr. Altman and 1, should be doing. Senator MACK. Did you attend or set up a meeting at the White House on October 14, 1993? Ms. HANSON. I attended a meeting. I didn't set it up. Senator MACK. Who attended? Ms. HANSON. From Treasury, Joshua Steiner, Jack DeVore, and myself. From the White House, Mr. Nussbaum, Mr. Sloan, Mr. Lindsey, Mr. Gearan, and I understand Mr. Eggleston was there as well, but I don't recall that. Senator MACK. I'm going to read you part of a memorandum that Bruce Lindsey-was he there? Ms. HANSON. Yes, sir. Senator MACK. Let me quote from the memorandum that Bruce Lindsey wrote on October 20, 1993, with reference to the October 141 1993, meeting: 119 One of the referrals, however, involved four cashier's checks each for $3,000. Two were made payable to the Clinton for Governor campaign and two were made payable to Bill Clinton. The checks were dated April 4 and 5, 1985. All four checks were deposited in the Bank of Cherry Valley. Gerth wanted DeVore to find out who had endorsed the checks. A check of our campaign records turned up three cashiers checks for $3,000 each from J.W. Fulbright, Ken Peacock, and Dean Landrum and a personal check for $3,000 from Jim McDougal signed by Susan McDougal. Later on in the memorandum he writes: The RTC believes that the funds for the cashier's checks came from a loan from Madison Guaranty to a Republican, but supposedly the Republican was unaware that some of the loan funds had been diverted. Do you have any recollection of that being discussed at that point? Ms. HANSON. I have a recollection of checks being discussed, and I've seen Mr. Lindsey's memo. It's unclear to me from that memo, the way it's written, whether information was discussed at the meeting or subsequently provided. I have no recollection of that last paragraph. I don't know what the source of that information is, and I don't recall having heard it. Senator DAMATO. Can I ask you something? Were you ever given that information? MS. HANSON. I'm sorry? Senator DAMATO. Were you ever given that information? Senator Mack has just relayed to you a memo. I want to know, in the briefing that you bad, did you ever get that information?