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New Masts Set In Old Ironsides After 33 Year Retirement
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August 4, 1994 - Part 12
(23:00:31) The question, I submit, is not whether the information is subject to possible misuse. Of course it is. The question is whether it was, in fact, misused. Did anyone in the White House violate his or her oath by using this information for a purpose other than to prepare the White House to respond to press inquiries? There is not a shred, to my knowledge, a single shred of evidence, that anyone in the White House did that. What did happen is that the criminal referrals proceeded on their normal course. They were not stopped, they were not changed, they were not adversely affected in any way. And as of this time, they have been referred to the Independent Counsel for whatever action he ultimately determines to be appropriate. Finally, with regard to the February 2 meeting, the information regarding the statute of limitations process was no different from that already provided to a number of Members of Congress. In any event, there was no information provided in the February 2 meeting related to RTC procedures on the statute of limitations that White House lawyers did not already know and would not have been obvious to any experienced litigator. I already explained at some great length the significant public policy concerns with Mr. Altman's statement, that he was consider- ing recusal. It was appropriate to ask Mr. Altman-and that's all I did-to consider carefully whether he should recuse himself in a case involving the President where Mr. Altman was neither ethi- Cally nor legally obligated to do so. In Mr. Altman's case, it was all the more important to urge careful deliberation since he and oth- ers, such as Ms. Tigert, were being pressed by the President's polit- ical opponents to recuse themselves. As I have stated, I believed then, and I firmly believe now that Executive Branch officials and agency heads should not remove themselves from sensitive matters simply because of political advantage or expediency or for their own personal convenience, They should do their duty. Now, I feel strongly about the importance of the policy issues that were raised by these meetings. Others, I know, feel less strongly about these policies, They believe that there are other overriding considerations, particularly political ones. Mr. Cutler has a different view than I have. I respect these different views. But let us be clear. We are talking about legitimate differences of opinion. We are not talking about differences in ethical standards or standards of propriety. At the same time, as I as reach the end of this statement I want that you to understand that I agree that not everything we did in the White House or that I did as Whit HouseCounsel was perfect. We could, and should, have done better. I agree with Lloyd Cutler that there were too nany contacts, by too many people, about too many subjects--particularly in February 1994. I feel responsible for some of the lack of discipline reflected in some of those contacts. And I support Mr. Cutler's proposals for changes in White House procedures. All future contacts of the sort I have described should be lawyer to lawyer. We may have our differences today. But position I want you to understand that every moment I held the position of Counsel to the President, I sought , as I said in the beginning, to conduct myself 478 in the highest traditions of public service and of my profession. And as I've said earlier, I believe I did so. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for suffering through this lengthy statement with me. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Mr. Nussbaum. Let me be clear oil a couple of things, and then I want to make a couple of very direct points to you. When you were Counsel to the President, who did you report to in the White House? Mr. NUSSBAUM. I reported to the President and to Mr. McLarty, The CHAIRMAN. You reported to the President and to Mr. McLarty. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Yes, The CHAIRMAN. So it would be fair to say when you spoke to any body, they might assume you were speaking for the President because you reported to him, certainly as a direct agent of his. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Yes. I was a direct agent of his. I don't want to make it sound that I was the person in the White House who was closest to the President. The CHAIRMAN. No, I'm not saying that. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Or saw the President more than anybody else. The CHAIRMAN. You were the top lawyer. You were the legal voice for the President reporting directly to the President. Mr. NUSSBAUM. I was the legal voice to the President reporting directly to the President at times, yes. The CHAIRMAN. To my knowledge, we've never met or if we have we've never had the chance before now to get acquainted, and Mr. NUSSBAUM. We may have talked on the phone, Mr. Chairman, but I don't remember meeting you.
Gunnery Centennial Celebrated
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Hail King Christian At 1,000th Birthday of Arctic Domain
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Women's Tennis Title Won For 4th Year by Hellen Willis Moody
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Use Floating Island As Landing Field For Passenger Planes
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August 4, 1994 - Part 12
(23:05:27) The CHAIRMAN. You're obviously a man of charm and intellect and from everything I know about your record in public service in the past and more recently, I think you brought the best of intentions and motives to the job. Let me just state that and stipulate that at the outset, I think you had no right whatsoever to inject yourself in any way, shape or form in Roger Altman's consideration of whether he should recuse himself. I think to say one word to him about it was improper on its face on two grounds. I want to tell you what they are, and I feel very strongly about it. Mr. NUSSBAUM. So do 1, Mr. Chair-man, The CHAIRMAN. He came to the White House that day on February 2nd in his capacity as the acting head of the RTC. The RTC is an independent agency. They don't report to you, and you have no authority as the lawyer for the President or as a person with strong personal opinions, and you obviously have them, to in effect cut into the activity or the decisionmaking of somebody heading that agency on any question, large or small. You just have no right to do that, in my opinion. You don't have that right. Mr. NUSSBAUM. I disagree with you, sir. The CHAIRMAN. I know you do, and you'll have a chance to re spond when I finish. I feel very strongly that you don't have that right, and I think to take it upon yourself to do that and to cross that line and to, in effect, interfere with the judgment or the think ing of someone who's heading an independent agency of that kind is not a proper function of the President's Legal Counsel. I think 479 on the first ground, you crossed a line that you yourself should not have crossed. Number two, I think you crossed it in an area where there was a case under consideration that, in fact, directly involved the President, and you were a representative of the President, for the President, in your role as his Legal Counsel. I think that was the second reason, as hard as it might have been for you to do it because you had very strong feelings, I understand that, I respect the fact that you have strong feelings because I have strong feelings, too. But that was one time when you should have bit your tongue, if you had to bite it in half, and not stick your nose into that decision. I think you had no right to do it on either ground. I would further add, I don't think Mr. Altman should have come over there, in a sense, putting the idea out there and allowing him to be in a situation where he could be subjected to responses by you, and I think clearly pressure by you-you may not have thought of it as pressure Mr. NUSSBAUM. I don't think it The CHAIRMAN. In my mind, it isn't important whether you thought it was pressure. It's important whether he thought it was pressure and he felt pressure and I'm convinced that he did. I think his behavior shows that. We've got other evidence that shows it. I think in a situation like this, because of your role reporting for the President-reporting to the President, being his chief lawyer, when you inject yourself into that process, it injects pressure, whether that is your intention or not, I think he felt pressure, and I think he responded to that pressure. Now, I don't think he should have-if he was going to come over and say that, he should have taken the action to recuse himself first, he should have written a letter, filed a letter and if he wanted to then inform you that it had been done, I think that's an entirely different matter. But to come over and announce so I think that was a mistake on his part, but to announce the intention and then to have you just barge right into that decision as if you had some right to weigh in on it is a misjudgment on your part. I don't think you had that right. Now, I understand you have a different opinion. I'm giving you ,my opinion because we spent a lot of time examining this, just as you have. We've heard a lot of witnesses. I think that a central part of the problem that we have here is the fact that there was an interference with that recusal decision. Mr. Altman had reached the decision. He testified before us, sitting right where you are now, that he had reached a decision to recuse himself. It was in .his briefing notes. After you ventilated your opinion, obviously strongly, and you make a reference here to it, when you have an opinion, you tend Ito give it strongly, and I felt that tonight just as you read your testimony. I think when you expressed that view as the President's lawyer and other people in that room reinforced expressing reservations about him doing it, I think he felt pressure. He behaved in a manner that demonstrates that because within 24 hours, he not only changed his mind and decided not to recuse himself, but he felt the need to come back to the White House and report that decision in a meeting and to ask for a meeting to do it. He should 480 not have done that either. Now, I know you don't see it, and that's part of what bothers me, is that you don't even see it yet. Mr. NUSSBAUM. What bothers me is you don't see important things too. The CHAIRMAN. I listened to you. I listened to you for 27 pages.
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Cleopatra's Jewels
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Dragonfly
(Tape 1) 02:11:56 Various shots of dragonflies 02:14:15 Dragon Fly C.U.
Tiger Swallowtail Butterfly
(Tape 1) Tiger Swallowtail Butterfly
Liquid Eye Treatment
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Grasshopper
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Cray Fish
(Tape 1) Cray Fish - "Chimney"
Fire Ants
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Dragonfly
(Tape 1) Dragon Fly, C.U.
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August 4, 1994 - Part 12
(23:10:47) Mr. NUSSBAUM. I know but The CHAIRMAN. I think you're demonstrating the very thing that probably happened in that meeting. I was very tempted to interrupt your statement. I didn't do so. Mr. NUSSBAUM. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. I apologize. The CHAIRMAN. No, but--I'm not taking it personally. I think it's an illustration of your exuberance, having the kind of effect I Suspect it had on Mr. Altman at the time because he obviously-he agonized about this decision. He didn't want to displease people. He didn't want people to react negatively to this decision. I think there's plenty that suggests that and I think he got a pretty good dose from you, but that was a time when he was an independent head of an agency, at least in the capacity that he was in there, that you should have respected that difference. Despite the fact that you had strongly held views, that you're a highly competent lawyer, that you had a strong opinion, you had a strong opinion on Ms. Kulka as well, I think that was one time when you should have kept it to yourself. I think it had no part in these considerations and should not have had. I don't think that was relevant whatsoever to what should have gone on here. The fact it might have been up in your head, I think you were in a different role, in a different capacity and you ought to have restrained yourself from interfering in that decision. I think you did interfere with it, and my own judgment is you affected it and I think that was wrong. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Can I respond, Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Yes, please. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Mr. Chairman, I was Counsel to the President. I was Counsel to the President, acting in a offlicial capacity. I was a senior Executive Branch official. What Mr. Altman was suggesting touched on an important Executive Branch policy, what I believe should be an Executive Branch policy and is an Executive Branch policy. An Executive Branch official has a duty to do his duty unless he's legally or ethically required to recuse himself. This affects all Executive Branch officials. We were handling the Tigert nomination. What Mr. Altman was suggesting would have had an effect on that nomination. I was acting in my role as a senior Executive Branch official in order to get him to consider whether or not he should do something which might adversely impact that important policy. Mr. Chairman, with all respect, I understand you feel strongly about it and I'm starting to feel some pressure also--it goes both ways in this, Mr. Chairman. Nonetheless, I felt that I was doing my duty in saying to him, Roger, just consider whether or not you should recuse yourself if you're not legally or ethically required to do so. This is a policy that affects the entire Executive Branch, What he was suggesting was something I believe to be totally unprincipled, wrong. And I'm entitled, as one Executive Branch official to another Executive Branch official, to consider whether he should do that. That is my job and that is my duty. 481 I understand, Mr. Chairman, that we disagree and maybe other Members of the Committee agree with You and don't agree with me. But I thought, Mr. Chairman, that I was doing my job. I thought, Mr. Chairman, I was acting in a principled manner. I thought, Mr. Chairman, I was acting on behalf of the Presidency, in the President's official capacity. I was not doing it, Mr. Chairman, to affect the private interest of the President. I was not doing it for that reason. I was not doing it, Mr. Chairman, because I held some negative feelings about Ms. Kulka at that time. I was not doing it. I was doing it to enforce or to support an important principle, which I believe exists and which I hope you believe exists, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. But even if you were right on the principle, it would have been somebody else's job to present that point to him, not yours, because you were there representing the President of the United States. This is an independent agency. This is the acting head of an agency announcing his intention to make a decision, and you put yourself right square in the middle of it. You went butting right into it. I'm telling you my view. I don't think you should have done it. I don't care how strongly you felt about it. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Strong feelings, Mr. Chairman The CHAIRMAN. I'm talking about strength of feeling based on the merit of your argument, Mr. NUSSBAUM. I was about to acknowledge, strong feelings on my part do not justify conduct on my part. It's not that I felt strongly about it. I felt this was the proper thing to do. The CHAIRMAN, What I'm saying to you is, I think you were wrong. I think it was improper on both those grounds.
Mud Dauber Wasp
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Bumble Bee
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Dragonfly
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