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August 2, 1994 - Part 11
(23:50:50) The CHAIRMAN. If I may say and I want to make sure everybody has a chance to be beard so they may cover the ground they have need to cover Senator GRAMM. Mr. Chairman, may I address that issue? The CHAIRMAN. All right, then I'll make my statement after you. Senator GRAMM. I have, of course like everybody else, sat here all day. I have about 6 more major questions that I think are relevant on ground that has not yet been plowed, in my opinion, or certainly has not been seeded. My suggestion is this: Why don't we let Mr. Altman go home in the name of human decency and also allow ourselves to go home, and why don't we go ahead with our hearing tomorrow. Let him go ahead with his hearing and then when our bearings are finished, let's have him come back. The CHAIRMAN. Well Mr. ALTMAN. I'd prefer not to do that, Senator Gramm. If you want to stay here until 7 a.m., I'll be sitting right in this chair. Senator MOSELEY-BRAuN. And so will 1, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. And so will I, Mr. Altman. I think we've got to go ahead and conclude this. I will say in my own view, and I don't dispute at all the fact that Senator Gramm has 6 more areas that he wants to go over, but I do think we're reaching the point where a lot of what we're discussing is repetitive. In other words, I think a person coming along and reading the record will find that a lot of what has been said has been said more than 1 2 3, or 4 times. who That's all right up to a point, but I think because those of us are still here have been here the whole time, we should use the remaining time to break new ground and not just rehash where we've been. I think there is a point where it sort of borders on a trespass on what really is appropriate to the situation. I want to stay here to get the information that we need and I will do so. I'll protect every Senator's right to get the information that we need. Mr. Altman-if you'll permit me to finish-Mr. Altman has said he'll stay here as ]on as it takes, I'm prepared to do that but I would just ask each Senator to take a look at that 527 question. We're all able to make that judgment and I'm sure well make good judgments in that regard. Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, perhaps we can do it during the break through discussion amongst ourselves and get some sense of how much time Members think they'll need. Well have some sense then, when Mr. Altman returns, of what we're facing. We did this last night with Ms. Hanson. I think the end result of it was we were able then to move along with the bearing and finally bring it to a conclusion with everyone satisfied that they'd had a chance to make their inquiries. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Bennett. Senator BENNETT. As I said last night, I have 5 minutes roughly and they are all items that have not been discusseduntil now. I'll comments on stuff that's already been said The CHAIRMAN. Senator Domenici. Senator DOMENICI. Five. The CHAIRMAN. Five minutes for you or 5 questions? Senator DOMENICI. Five minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I think 5 minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Five minutes will do it for you? Senator Mack. Senator MACK. I suspect that would be enough. The CHAIRMAN. Probably 5 minutes for Senator Mack. How much for you, Senator Gramm? Senator GRAMM. It bard for me to say.. If we could get nice concise answers, I think it would be pretty quick. Senator BOXER. I need 5 minutes. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Five minutes, also. The CHAIRMAN. Five minutes here. Senator DODD. That's about 7 a.m., I think. The CHAIRMAN. No, I don't think it has to be. If Members say the can do it in 5 minutes, I think they'll make a good faith effort to do so. Senator DODD. Senators can't clear their throats in 5 minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Well, that's true, but last night we ran into this same situation and we got to this point, people were able to start to wind it up. And I trust to people to do that now. I think if Senator Domenici says 5 minutes, it will be pretty darn close to 5 minutes and Senator Bennett and the rest. So let's just proceed on that basis and we'll take a 10-minute break now. We'll resume in 10 minutes and then we'll see if we can't finish. (23:55:00) [The Committee stands in recess.]
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(00:11:28) Hearing resumes: The CHAIRMAN. The Committee will resume. Senator Mack of Florida. Senator MACK. Thank you Mr Chairman. Senator SARBANES. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if it would be possible to do--since most Members said 5 minutes, whether we could go to 5 minute rounds recognizing that Senator Gramm, of course, as more--maybe, he could do 10 minutes when be gets his round. Senator MACK. I indicated I didn't think I would go over 5 but I do want to have the opportunity to go through with my questions. Senator SARBANES. I'll withdraw then. 528 The CHAIRMAN. We'll stick with the 10-minute rounds and if you don't need that long, you can just yield the time back. Very good Senator Mack. Senator MACK. Just before the break, Senator Kerry said kind of toward the end of his questions, Mr. Altman, you are not answering my question. And frankly, that's been a constant refrain from both sides during this hearing. My impression is that you have no interest in finding the truth or providing it to the Committee. I say that for many reasons, the latest of which is the conversation you had with Mr. Podesta on March 1, 1994. Mr. Podesta called you about a week after your testimony on February 24 and raised Significant concerns about the accuracy of your testimony. There were several areas he thou ght you should correct. I'm going to focus on the omission of the fall meetings between White House Counsel staff and Treasury officials. When Mr. Podesta brought up those meetings to you, you told him you didn't even want to hear about it. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, that's not what I said. Senator MACK. I'll give you an opportunity to respond. I'm going to read out of the transcript here. Now a whole group of attorneys down at the White House Counsel's Office thought you should correct the record and you didn't even want to hear about it. That's certainly the impression that we drew. Mr. ALTMAN. That's not what I said, Senator. Senator MACK. Members of the White House Counsel's Office undertook a very serious analysis of the accuracy of your testimony. Question: What was the conclusion of that serious analysis? Answer: The conclusion of the analysis was that in whatever capacity Ms. Hanson, or Mr. DeVore, or Mr. Steiner were over there, the Committee needed to be aware of these contacts. Question: The testimony? Answer., We thought this was very serious. Question: The testimony needed to be supplemented in some way? Answer: Yes. Question: What did Mr. Altman say on March I when you either read or paraphrased that second question? Answer: From February 24? (And he's referring there to Senator Bond's questions about contacts.) He said that-he again said it was an accurate statement. I said to him that there may be information that he would have to acquire to supplement this answer. He said I don't know whether we should be even having this conversation or something to that effect. Then I said well, you may have a duty to supplement your testimony from the perspective of an agency witness. He, I think at that point, did not want me to give him specific information about contacts that I was aware of because I think he was at the point just not sure about whether he should be learning additional facts subsequent to the hearings. The next day you sent this Committee your first of what turned out to be 4 letters to correct the record. in that letter, you continued to be, again in, my opinion, evasive as you were in the February 24 hearing, and I'm going to read from that letter. It is basically a three-paragraph letter, third paragraph: But I have learned today of two conversations which did take place between Treasury staff and White House personnel on this matter. My information is that both related to handling of press inquiries.
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(00:30:33) Senator BOXER. As a point of information for the Senator, I read that question and if you care, I can read it back to you. 'You took no action to stop the hiring of Republican Jay Stephens as Outside Counsel of the RTC; is that correct?" Senator GRAMM. And Mr. Altman, as I recall, said yes or that's correct. The point is he couldn't take action because he didn't know about the hiring, and I didn't want him to be incorrect. Senator BOXER. He was told by Mr. Stephanopoulos. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, the question was, did I take any action to stop it, and the answer is no. Senator GRAMM. But the implication, Mr. Altman, was that you could have. Senator Boxer was giving you a litany of the things you had done and Senator KERRY. You know, I don't think we're going to edify anybody with this exchange. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I had some questions to you concerning Mr. Fiske, but they'll bold. I am going to yield my time to Senator Do menici. Senator DOMENICI. Thank you very much. That's probably because I'm the oldest one here. Senator DODD. Pull the microphone closer to you. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Not chronologically. Senator DOMENICI. Mr. Altman, lees see, you have been telling us that you didn't recuse yourself on February 2, but you dig recuse yourself on February 25. Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator DOMENICI. I get the impression that you're trying to lead us to believe that there is no real difference between your recusing yourself on February 2 and your recusing yourself on February 25, and I think there is a big difference. In fact, I think the difference between those two dates, of your recusal on February 2 or recusal on February 25, is all the difference in this whole situation, so let me tell you why I think that. On February 25, there was no imminent decision to be made in the Madison/Whitewater case, no imminent decision to be made. On February 2, when the White House exerted and I quote from one of the witnesses, "intense pressure," the situation was dramatically different, Mr. Altman because on February 2, the White House and you both understood that within 3 weeks, either the statute would expire and Whitewater would soon be a distant memory or someone would have to make a decision to bring the case or seek a tollinge agreement. February was the critical time. The White House unde rstood. Bernard Nussbaum understood that, and the White House was fearful that if you recused yourself, the President and the First Lady would be left defenseless against Ellen Kulka or other RTC professionals who might file suit in the Madison/Whitewater case. The White House wanted you, not Ellen Kulka, to be the decisionmaker. And the documents and the testimony make this very clear. Now, let me read something to you. Let me direct your attention to a very new document that was just given to us. It had been previously edited out, and the White House later agreed we could have it. It's a memorandum dated February 28 from Neil Eggleston to 535 Harold Ickes where we get a unique insight into how they perceived your role, and, Mr. Altman, maybe you did not perceive your role this way. I am confident the White House did. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, what's the date of it? Senator DOMENICI. I'm telling you it's after all this, but just wait until we have to hear what it says. Mr. ALTMAN. It's after I recused myself; right? Senator DOMENICI. Yes, it's February 28, but let me read it for you, because - Senator KERRY. What page? Senator DOMENICI. Let's see--of the memo that we have?
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(00:15:39) Let's take the position that you had no knowledge about these last two conversations. Why in the world wouldn't you have taken the opportunity to inform the Committee as fully as possible? And frankly, I have watched the testimony now for hours and you have repeatedly given nonresponsive answers, which you justify with se- 529 mantic gymnastics. I believe you have continued tonight the evasive course which you adopted on February 24 and continue through a series of incomplete and misleading letters written to the Committee. I can't help but conclude that your every statement to this Committee is to evade, not to inform. So I say why in the world wouldn't you take this opportunity to inform the Committee as fully as possible in those four letters'! Mr. ALTMAN. I did so, Senator Mack. As you know, I received that call from Mr. Podesta and what happened? That same day, I sent this Committee a letter indicating that I just learned about those meetings. I thought they had to do with press inquiries. The same day. I didn't hesitate at all to put this information in the hands of the Committee as soon as I had it, the very same day. Senator MACK. Mr. Altman, again, I think you could have gone into a little bit more detail about what those meetings were about. Mr. ALTMAN. When Mr. Podesta told me about the meetings, I think he'll confirm that I said to him I never beard of the meetings which is simply the truth. Now, I wasn't then sure whether it was proper for me to get briefed on the meetings, whether I should get some legal advice as to whether I should then get briefed or not get briefed. I did call in Ms. Hanson and Mr. Steiner immediately or at least speak with them. They confirmed the meetings Senator MACK. But you felt no need to provide information to the Committee about what those meetings were about? I mean., I understand that Mr. Podesta may have tried to get you to provide information not only about the meetings, but about the recusals as well. Again, the feeling we had was when he started to talk to you, you just didn't want to have anything to do with this. Mr. ALTMAN. That's just not true, Senator You quoted Mr. Podesta when he asked me, I guess it was about recusal, I said I believed that my answer was responsive to the question or it was accurate. That's what I believed. You may not like that, but that's just what I believed. Now, I just don't accept the notion that at was evasive. I immediately prepared this letter. I called Senator Riegle on the phone, told him about it. I called Senator Bond, reached him at home, 8 p.m. or 9 p.m., told him about it. That's not the pattern of someone who's trying to withhold information. Senator MACK. Let me go back to a concern that was mentioned in the transcript about you having the conversation. What was that about? Why were you all of a sudden having concern about talking with folks at the White House? Mr. ALTMAN. No, no' I just didn't know at that moment whether it was appropriate to get fully briefed on those meetings, whether I should have that information at that point. Senator MACK. Again, what was wrong with being fully briefed and then passing that information on to the Committee? If the purpose was to fully inform the Committee, why wouldn't you do that? That sounds like a fairly reasonable question. Mr. ALTMAN. I just wasn't sure whether it was appropriate, including legally appropriate, for me to immediately It all this information and my first instinct was to be cautious, but Senator Senator MACK. Cautious about what? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, the salient point is I immediately communicated to the Committee. 530 Senator MACK. What you communicated to the Committee was that there were two meetings, nothing about the meetings, nothing about recusal. Again, it seems like you were just going to provide us just enough information and that's the point that I'm making. All through this process, the February 24, the follow-up and frankly your testimony here tonight, you just give us enough but not any more and that's the way it comes across. I'm sorry, but that's the conclusion that I've come to. Mr. ALTMAN. I respectfully disagree. I'm prepared to sit here until hell freezes over to answer every question you want to ask. Senator MACK. Why were you so concerned, in this testimony here in this transcript indicated that you weren't even sure whether you should be having conversations with folks at the White House? Mr. ALTMAN. They told me-Mr. Podesta said the meetings had-he asked me what about the meetings. I said I didn't know anything about them. And I think that confirms that my response I to Senator Bond on February 24 was an honest response. Senator MACK. But you subsequently found out about those meetings. You could have taken the opportunity in these letters to, in fact, fully inform. Taking it from the perspective that you didn't know about the meetings, why couldn't you have just said, again not knowing about the meetings, but here's what we've been able to reconstruct as to what happened at those meetings? Mr. ALTMAN. I tried to use my best judgment, Senator.
Cotton Bowl: LSU 14 - Arkansas 7
Arkansas comes into the Cotton Bowl game with a winning streak of 22 games and are heavy favorites to take the measure of Louisiana State. They go home after a skinning in the hands of The Tigers who upset them - 14 to 7. High Angle Shot - LSU football stadium with throngs jammed packed into the stands. There are floats that were used in the parade. CUS - College kids and a teacher or dad in the stands cheering on their team. High Angle Shot - Arkansas has the ball and they pass completing a 16 yard pass. (Arkansas) High Angle Shot - Arkansas takes it in for a touchdown. High Angle Shot - LSU - Shining in the second quarter, catches an 18 yard pass. High Angle Shot - LSU hands off the ball and jumps over the guards at the goal line. Game is tied up. High Angle Shot - LSU recovers a fumble. High Angle Shot - LSU has the ball again and once again he makes it over into the end zone, LSU winning 14 to 7.
Rose Bowl: UCLA 14 - Michigan St. 12
Michigan State was undefeated during the season and two-touchdown favorites to take the measure of UCLA. Well, you know the story when you have Old Man Upset playing "drawback" for the opposition. UCLA pulls for the biggest upset in Rose Bowl history as they down Michigan State - 14 to 12. Exterior shot - Rose Bowl and people walking around outside the stadium. High Angle Shot - UCLA marching band. High Angle Shot - People shaking their pomp pomes. High Angle Shot - The kicker kicks the football to Michigan State, the receiver fumbles, UCLA recovers the football. High Angle Shot - UCLA goes around the left end and he makes it to the 1 yard line as the first quarter ends. High Angle Shot - UCLA makes it over the block and he scores a touchdown. High Angle Shot - California kicks an off side kick and UCLA recovers the ball and takes it away from Michigan. High Angle Shot - UCLA passes the ball down the field and it is caught at the 1 yard line, and a touchdown is scored. At the half, California 14 - Michigan 0. Michigan lets loose in the fourth quarter, High Angle Shot - Michigan for 42 yards. High Angle Shot - Michigan takes a pitch out and 38 yards later its a Michigan touchdown. High Angle Shot - Michigan trys to run a 2-point conversion but is stopped by UCLA. The final score is UCLA 14 - Michigan St. - 12 - Upset
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(00:20:40) Senator MACK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. Have you finished your time? Senator MACK. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Boxer. Senator BOXER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and good morning to everyone, my colleagues, Mr. Altman. I keep telling myself it's only 9:20 p.m. in California so I'm convincing myself I'm not tired. Mr. Altman, it is my very honest view that there's some of those on this Committee who want your head on a platter as some tangible result of these $400,000 hearings. That's my belief. And if I believed for 1 minute, for 1 second that you tried to weaken the investigation of Madison Guaranty or any other S&L because there are tons of others, I'd be right there with them. So far, I believe quite the opposite. Now, 1 didn't know you before when you served in Government. I don't know much about you, but I can tell you that I believe quite the opposite is the case. You hired Ellen Kulka, a tough litigator, to handle the Madison case; is that correct, that you hired her? Mr. ALTMAN. I did, yes, Senator. Senator BOXER. And when Bernie Nussbaum was grumpy about Ellen Kulka and said something to the effect of, you know, she's tough and maybe we better not-maybe she can 't be trusted or words to that effect, you kept her in her place and you defended her, did you not? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, Senator, Senator BOXER. Did you not defend her to Mr. ALTMAN. I told him I bad confidence in her. Senator BOXER. Sorry? 531 Mr. ALTMAN. I told him I had confidence in her. Senator BOXER. You did. So if you were to "please" Mr. Nussbaum, you certainly wouldn't have, it seems to me, defended her. You recommended a Republican to head the RTC; is that correct? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes. senator BOXER. You spoke to some people up here about that individual? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, Senator. Senator BOXER. Is that correct? You took no action to stop the hiring of Republican Jay Stephens as Outside Counsel of the RTC; is at correct? Mr. ALTMAN. That's correct. senator BOXER, Even after you were called by a couple of folks at the White House and they complained about Mr. Stephens and they explained to you that be, Mr. Stephens, had been very harshly critical of the President, you said it's a done deal, didn't you? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, Senator. Senator BOXER. Did you say you'd look into it? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I did not. Senator BOXER. Did you say you were stunned by it? Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator BOXER. Did you talk to Ms. Kulka about getting rid of Mr. Stephens? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I didn't. senator BOXER. Did you chastise her for that? Mr. ALTMAN. No, I didn't chastise her. I thought it was kind of vintage Ellen. Senator BOXER. It was vintage Ellen. Did you tell the staff at the RTC to treat Madison as they would any other case? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, Senator, I did. Senator BOXER. Because Mr. Roelle said that. Ms. Kulka said it. And Mr. Ryan said it. They all said it. Ms. Hanson said it. You briefed Republican Senators and Congresspeople on this issue just about the same time you briefed the White House on the procedure: is that correct, in letters and so on? Mr. ALTMAN. I responded to the inquiries that were coming to me, Yes. Senator BOXER. The recusal to take yourself out of the Madison case, that was your idea, was it not? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, it was. Senator BOXER. Initially? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, it was. Senator BOXER. And. in the face of White House Counsel, I'll call it disapproval grumpiness, agitation, excitement, you eventually recused yourself, did you not? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, I did. Senator BOXER, Now, Ms. Hanson told you at the February 24 Senate hearing when you turned around to her, did she not tell you that your testimony was complete vis-a-vis the meetings and, that You were correct to say there were no other meetings; is that correct? Mr. ALTMAN, She confirmed that my response to Senator Bond on that question was the right one. 532 Senator BOXER. So when we saw her on that tape shaking her head no, you said were there any other meetings, and basically that's what you said, she said no. Mr. ALTMAN. Yes. Senator BOXER. Now, I personally fault Ms. Hanson for not get ting the transcript. She tells us she knew they had to be corrected, but somehow this woman, who is of very high caliber, couldn't figure out a way to get the transcript and doesn't make the corrections but didn't she sign off on your corrections? Mr. ALTMAN. She signed off on the letter I sent to Senator Riegle on March 2, and, I think, the March 3 letter. Senator BOXER. When she signed off on that, did she say, but Mr. Altman, this isn't right or Roger, we need to do more? Mr. ALTMAN. No.
Season's First Ski Jump
The first major ski jump of the season gets off to a slippery start at Oberstdorf in the German-Austrian meet. There are jumpers from five countries after this title, but they all have had hard going as the course is rough and sloppy from rain and snow. However, they give their best -- and best of all is Veikko Kankkonend of Finland, noted Olympic Gold Medal winner. Skier is in the gate ready to take off, he takes off and it looks mighty scary. MS - The second jumper takes off and he lands but finishes up the jump on his rear end. The over all winner is Veikko Kankkomen of Finland and adds another crown to his Olympic gold and silver medals.
Shastri Mourned: World In Tribute To India's Leader
A million people line the streets of New Delhi to pay last tribute to Lal Bahadur Shastri, Prime Minister of India. Mr. Shastri died in Tashkent, Soviet Central Asia, just hours after signing an agreement with Pakistan to withdraw troops from disputed Kashmir. In keeping with Hindu custom, the Prime Minister's body is cremated on the banks of the river Jumna. Shastri's death thrust a new figure on the world scene. Madame Indira Gandhi is the almost unanimous choice to succeed Mr. Shastri as Prime Minister. She has the rare gift of holding the respect of India's many factions. New Delhi, India The people of India pay tribute to Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri as his remains is pulled down the street, laying on a raised platform surrounded by flowers in a funeral like procession where throngs line up to pay their last respects MS - In keeping with Hindu custom his remains will be cremated on the banks of the river Jumna. MS - Small logs are place around the body of the Prime Minister and ignited. CUS - The logs surrounding the Prime Minister's body are on fire. Exterior shot - The home that the Prime Minister lived in. CUS - Vice President Hubert Humphrey driven in chauffeur state cars pulling up the home of Madam Indira Gandhi to pay his last respects. CUS - Vice President Hubert Humphrey and Madam Indira Gandhi. MS - Hubert Humphrey and Indira Gandhi sitting on a sofa engaged in conversation. MS - Indira Gandhi and Hubert Humphrey bidding farewell.
Nigeria In Turmoil
Life appears to go on calmly in Nigeria's streets despite an attempted coup by dissident junior officers. Only days after he presides at a Commonwealth Ministers Conference, Nigerian Prime Minister Balewa was kidnapped by the rebels. The uprising came as a shock to Commonwealth nations. Footage is of PM Balewa while in power, not of the coup. Nigeria Downtown area in Nigeria, traffice and people going about their business. Exterior shot - Federal Palace Hotel. MS - Prime Minister Bakewa walking in the lobby of the hotel. MS - British Commonwealth sitting at long tables. I think there is a shot of Prime Minister Harold Wilson sitting as one of the Commonwealth Ministers at the conference.
Here's A Spanish Traffic Lesson
An imaginative cameraman roams the streets of Madrid to show you how a little thought can solve your parking problems. He uses miniatures in a way that will have you blinking. Madrid, Spain Car is driven up and parked at the curb, a man gets out of the car and walks up to the traffic cop. MS - The traffic cop tells the man he can't park in that area. CUS - You see the car and a big giant hand picks up the car. ECU - It's the man. Holding the car in his hand he shrugs his shoulders and puts the car in his suit jacket pocket, and he walks away with a smile on his face. MS - The same man driving a motorcycle and he parks his bike in front of the garage door, a loading zone. ECU - A large hand picks up the motorcycle and once again he places the motorcycle in his jacket pocket and walks away.
A Big, Big Blessed Event
The proudest -- and biggest set of parents in the State of Texas are Jimmy and Jimmy! They are the parents of Victoria -- Vicky to her friends -- the ninth Gorilla to be born in captivity. Baby is doing fine and soon will be receiving visitors. Texas Two Gorillas in their cage, in a zoo and it's in Texas. They just became proud parents of a little baby girl Gorilla. CUS - A little baby Gorilla named Vicky. MS - A shot of Vicky in an incubator. MS - A nurse goes up to the incubator and very carefully lifts up Vicky out of the incubator. CUS - Baby's Vicky's birth certificate. CUS - Little Vicky being held in the arms of a caring nurse being fed a bottle. MS - Nurse sitting on a chair holding the baby gorilla in a receiving blanket on her lap. ECUS - Little baby Vicky. MS - The nurse gets up from her cahir and places the baby very gently back into the incubator. CUS - Vicky laying in her incubator happy and content.
Pro Bowl Game: East 36 and West 7
The Western Pro stars are plagued with miss-cues as an aroused East team takes advantage and runs up a 36 to 7 victory. The West has 8 passes intercepted - that gives you an idea how it went. Los Angles, California 60-thousand are crowded into the stadium in Los Angles, California. to watch the East-All Stars play against the West. High Angle Shot - Frank Ryan passes a 61- yard pass to Sonny Randall and he runs that football to the 2-yard line. High Angle Shot (M) - Jim Brown gets the ball, and carries it around heading for a touchdown for the East. West quarterback operates under an ill star today, six of his passes are intercepted by the East. M-High Angle Shot - This pass is intercepted by the West. High Angle Shot - East quarterback, Ryan completes half his passes and clicks when it counts, he passes to Gary Collins caulking up 20-yards. MS - Jim Brown is over the second for the 3-touchdown he scores. High Angle Shot - West finally gets on the scoreboard with a 30-tard pass from Brody to Tommy McDonald. Its too little too late and East clobbers West.
All At Sea!: Crowds Go Sailing In Mid-Manhattan
It seems that there is hardly a landlubber left in New York as Gotham mites flock to the annual Boat Show. There's something for everyone, A boat for $100 or a yacht for $100,000. There's only one drawback about the Boat Show - it does make spring seem so far away. New York, New York Exterior shot of New York's Coliseum and people queue for admission to see the annual Boat Show. LAS - POV going up on the escalator you see many sails from the exhibiting of sail boats. CUS - A nice fiberglass sail boat. CUS - Inside a cabin cruiser. Low Angle Shot - looking up at the bow of a cabin cruiser. CUS - Control panels of a sail boat or cabin cruiser. Top notch. CUS - A model takes the wheel of a pretend cruise. CUS - A real cute little race boat. CUS - A double haul catamaran. CU - People queue in line going up the latter to see the deck and inside of a deluxe cabin cruiser. LS - Sales people and pedestrians looking at the sail boats and larger cabin cruisers.
Weaver Sworn In
A distinguished audience sees Robert C. Weaver sworn in as the new Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. Mr. Weaver is the first African Aerican to attain Cabinet rank and his installation marks a new milestone. Washington DC Exterior shot - White house. MCU - East room of the White House, audience is seated and happy with anticipation. CUS - A distinguished audience is made of congressmen, friends and civil right's leaders. MS - One of the ceremonies, is the swearing in of Robert C. Weaver, he will be Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. MS - President Lyndon Baines Johnsonm Lady Brid Johnson are president at the swearing in of Robert C. Weaver. CUS - Robert C . Weaver and his wife posing for the camera.
A Proud Old Name Returns To The Sea
A proud old name returns to the sea. The German liner "Europa" sails into New York harbor for her maiden voyage under a new flag. She's the former "Kungsholm" and, thoroughly refurbished, will add new luxury to the trans-Atlantic run. New York, NY Camera positioned this shot looking at the German liner through the hole in a life saver, nice shot. MLS - A different kink of shot. This time it's through the ships steering wheel. Off the coast or ship - A side view of the two stack German Passenger Ocean Liner, being guided by a little tug boat. MRS - A sea Captain saluting the "Europa" as she heads in to port. The new ocean liners do not compete with air speed they compete in luxury ocean liner competing only in luxury. LS - Cameraman fashioned this shot as looking at the Statue of Liberty framed by the top piece of a latter. LS / High Angle - Fire boat spouting water. MS - Two tug boats along the side of the Passenger Ocean Liner - "Europa." MS - The backs of passengers looking at New York's sky-line. CU - Women leaning on the rail of the ship. MS - The Ocean Liner - "Europa" docked in its berth.
August 2, 1994 - Part 11
(00:25:52) Senator BOXER. Mr. Altman, do you feel it would have been bet'ter if you bad not had that briefing at the White House? Mr. ALTMAN. In hindsight, it should have been done in writing Senator BOXER. In hindsight, it should have been done in writ- ing, just as you did to Members of this Committee, other Senators, and Congresspeople. That's your view at this point? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, although if any Senator had called me, I would have given him the information right over the phone if I had it. it was generic. Senator BOXER. Mr. Ryan came to Senator DAmato's office and briefed him personally so obviously the RTC was willing to do that. And now that you know all about these other meetings where the criminal referrals were discussed in terms of a press leak you think it would have been better, even though you didn't know about them, that they hadn't taken place at all? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes. We've said that. I agree with it. Senator BOXER. And you think it would have been better if you went with your gut and had recused yourself because in your heart you didn't feel perfectly good about it-and that was a noble thing-you should have gone with it and you agree with that now. Mr. ALTMAN. I should have done that initially. I know it has created a great big uproar and I regret that. I wish I hadn't. But I did recuse myself. Senator BOXER. I understand that. Had you gone with it first, ou agree it would have been better off. So I would just sum UP ere and say, unlike Ms. Hanson, who never admitted she did anything wrong eve you have stated to us very -I believe in an open way maybe my colleagues don't think it's a big deal-you have stated you made some mistakes or you didn't put it in quite that terms. You would have done it a little differently. Mr. ALTMAN. I made some mistakes. I absolutely did. if I could do it all over again, I'd do several things differently. I'd have the February 2 communication in writing. I'd recuse myself right off the bat. Senator BOXER. I appreciate that, Mr. Altman. I think it's a sign of maturity. And I do feel Mr. ALTMAN. I've gotten a lot older over the last 3 or 4 months Senator BOXER, Right, and I think you're going to be a stronger person for it all. Thank you very much. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Faircloth. 533 senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman, Senator Faircloth is going to yield 2 minutes to Senator Gramm. Would you yield 2 minutes to Senator Gramm first'? Senator GRAMM. Would the Senator yield just 1 minute? I want to clarify a point of information. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Go ahead. Senator GRAMM. I don't want the record to suggest, Mr. Altman, that you said or implied something that was untrue. When this litany of your achievements was listed, one of the examples given was the hiring of Jay Stephens. Is it not true that you did not hire Jay Stephens that you did not know he was hired, and that you did not even know who he was? Is that not true? Mr. ALTMAN. That's true. Ms. Kulka hired him partly or at least Senator BOXER. I asked if he had any objection and he tried to get him fired. Senator GRAMM. But the point is, Mr. Altman you didn't even know he was hired, so you couldn't have had an objection. Is that not true? Mr. ALTMAN. I think it's a good thing I didn't know he was hired. Those decisions didn't come to me. Senator GRAMM. Would you please answer my question? Is it true that you did not know be was hired, so you couldn't have bad an objection one way or another? Mr. ALTMAN. That's correct. Senator GRAMM. In fact, when it was raised you didn't even know his name; right? Senator BOXER. Mr. Chairman, I would like to say the Senator from Texas is not correctly stating what my question was. I asked if he Senator GRAMM. Mr. Chairman, I have the time and if I may claim it. I'd like to ask the reporter to go back and to read Senator Boxer's statement and see if Mr. Altman responded to it. Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman, come on. Senator SARBANES. That's going to take a lot of time to get the reporter to do that and that's not-that's a nice kind of a debating technique, but I think if Senator Gramm has made his point, Senator Boxer made hers, and I think we ought to go ahead Senator GRAMM. I would withdraw it, Mr. Chairman. Let me just pose a yes or no answer. Did you know that Jay Stephens had been hired? Did you know who he was? Did you have any ability, therefore, to stop it, encourage it, or have anything to do about; it until you were told about it by the White House after he was there? Yes or no. Mr. ALTMAN. No. Senator GRAMM. That's all. The CHAIRMAN. I might has just say, the recording person down here done a terrific, job and she was her last night lit, too. She's been here steadily tonight and she's been mentioned and she ought to be recognized for her hard work and we appreciate it.
Havana Scenics
Great LS automobile traffic & pastel-colored buildings lining Malecon in Havana, Cuba. Nice LS El Morro castle (castillo de los tres reyes del morro), waves crashing against rocks in FG. Scenic LS spectacular sunset, palm tree in silhouette in FG. LS unidentified, unassuming hotel w/ parking lot in FG. Nice panning & static LSs tall buildings, auto traffic lining Malecon. LS El Morro Castle, freighter sailing in harbor in FG. LSs El Morro, waves crashing against rocks in FG (some shots feature cargo shipping freighters crossing screen in mid-ground).
Neon Signs, Havana
MS neon sign for famed Tropicana nightclub in Havana, Cuba, night. MS neon sign for Montmartre niteclub-- and it's air conditioned, too! MS neon sign for Sloppy Joe's Bar. TLS neon sign for Tropicana. MS neon sign for Montmartre.
Miami
Raw footage of sights & scenes in Miami, Florida, 1950s.
Aerials
Aerial shot of airport tarmac as viewed from airplane just after take-off. Aerial shot of residential neighborhoods, suburbs. Aerial shots clouds, patches of ocean & land visible through breaks. Aerials islands, beaches, coastal land masses, forested in-land areas.
Misc Scenes
Tight framed MS passing tarmac, pavement as viewed from airplane during take-off. LS harbor. Long span of black, unexposed film. Panning MSs bird of pray (hawk) in flight against cloudless sky. TLS police officer in squad car parked on street.
Havana - AAA tourists, travel, ship
Havana - AAA tourists, travel, ship
Sea turtle swimming: Cuba
Cuba, underwater, sea turtles Good, clear footage. TRANSFERRED TO PREVIEW #97295